Main Entry: so�cial�ism Pronunciation: 'sO-sh&-"li-z&m Function: noun Date: 1837 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Merriam Webster Heald, Tim writes: > I can't browse the web right now :( > > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary > > Heald, Tim writes: > > > Socialism does not prevent all private property ownership. Hell even in > > China today, which is far past socialism, they allow some private > ownership > > of property and business. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:02 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > > > > Tim. That definition said nothing about mineral rights, which you are > > obsessed with for some reason. If you think the British land system is > > socialist, well, have fun in your fantasy world. This would make all > former > > British colonies plus the current Commonwealth plus the US, what, 25 or 30 > > percent of the world at least, socialist. Funny that the socialists don't > > seem to think so. I mean. When you spout this sort of paranoia and then > > insist you have proved things you haven't how is one supposed to discuss > > anything with you, seriously. > > > > Canada does not have any significant regulation of the right to own > private > > property. Therefore it is not a socialist country. It's very simple, > > really. > > > > Dana > > > > Heald, Tim writes: > > > > > My mind is closed. Hehe. Funny because there were at least three or > four > > > times yesterday where I admitted I was wrong, where as you have yet to > > admit > > > that you didn't understand what the word socialism meant in the English > > > language. Even now that Larry has so kindly posted the definition of > the > > > word from several different sources you refuse to see it as it is > defined, > > > preferring to use your own misaligned notions of it's meaning. > > > > > > BTW I do not think that GWB is a good leader. Again don't make > > assumptions > > > about me. I am not a republican or a democrat remember? > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:35 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > > > > > > > exactly, your mind is closed. As for me... I do try to stay within the > > > bounds of reality, what can I say, and I can't envisage Texas as a > > > socialist state or George Bush as a clever leader without a giggle. > > > > > > > that with you and Larry this is near impossible, as it is when you > > attempt > > > > to sway me, for the most part. > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't say I have studied the issue. But I would start to think > socialism > > > > when I see that all the media are government owned and so are most of > > the > > > > businesses. I guess a key test would be can you start your own > business > > > and > > > > can you buy your own land or do you have to take what you are given. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > Heald, Tim writes: > > > > > > > > > Not what country, what policies and economy? Cuba calls itself > > > socialist, > > > > > hell so did the USSR, remember them? Nazis claimed to be national > > > > > socialists. That doesn't make it so. > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:33 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cuba comes to mind. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/News2Frame.htm?socialistcountries.htm > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > Heald, Tim writes: > > > > > > > > > > > will you define what you THINK socialism is? I pulled my > definition > > > out > > > > > of > > > > > > the one that Larry sent from the dictionary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:24 PM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A very fast scan on Google indicates that this is a characteristic > > of > > > > fee > > > > > > simple deeds in general. I know that in Texas they were talking > > about > > > > fee > > > > > > simple deeds also... I was thinking of buying land in West Texas > and > > > > this > > > > > > was pointed out on one site I was reading as a gotcha, that and > > making > > > > > sure > > > > > > there is some access to water. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it proves a thing about socialism... > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > Nick McClure writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > But does the government own the mineral rights, or are they just > a > > > > > > separate > > > > > > > deed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought it was common for mineral and land rights to be > > separate, > > > > that > > > > > > way > > > > > > > I can sell my mineral rights but keep the land, or keep the > > mineral > > > > > rights > > > > > > > and sell the land. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My point was that the mineral rights are government owned, and > > will > > > > > always > > > > > > > be that way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:00 PM > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean > Countries) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you know that if you buy a house in Texas the mineral > rights > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > > > normally included? I haven't researched the question in Canada > > and > > > > > most > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > my relatives live within city limits. Which province are we > > > talking > > > > > > about? > > > > > > > > Even if true, This would by your definition make Texas a > > socialist > > > > > > state. > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > don't think so. And if we are going to get into countries that > > > give > > > > > > money > > > > > > > > to oil companies... hehe. I haven't reseached this in Canada, > > but > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > > > pull out beaucoup links about Haliburton and the rest of the > > gang > > > > > making > > > > > > > > billions in Iraq. Does this make the US a socialist state? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you say *I* am oversimplifying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As for taxes, to hear you guys you pay plenty in taxes. You > sure > > > > > > Canadians > > > > > > > > pay more? I thought you were going to look this up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a problem with the statement because it is wrong, Tim, > > you > > > > say > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > things and then you can't back them up. I asked you for links > > > about > > > > > this > > > > > > > > last Thursday. Put up or shut up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
