Oh yeah, I remember you complaining abou your mother getting welfare. Ok, the talk has a little more validity coming from someone who has had a taste of actual poverty, but I still find it hard to be patient with them; we have all had out burdens. ::shrug:: Possibly this reflects more on my patience than on anything else.
Dana Tim Heald writes: > My dad was a defense contractor. I had no contact with him from about 12 > until about 18, this includes child support. By that time I was imancipated > and living on my own for two years. > > Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:21 AM > Subject: Re: The Des Moines Register > > > > I will grant you that I was being a bit patronizing. But I was thinking > > more along the lines of wasn't your dad a petroleum engineer than your > > present circumstances. I think I answered a lot of these questions in what > > I just wrote to Kevin. > > > > Dana > > > > Tim Heald writes: > > > > > What is wrong with health care in the U.S.? They must treat you, at > least > > > to the point that your stabalized. You mention problems in Canada and > Great > > > Britin, what are you problems with health care here? Who exactly is not > > > able to gain access to health care? How is it rationed by type of > employer? > > > I mean health insurance is basically something that you get added to > your > > > benefit package. It could almost be considered part of your wage or > > > compensation package. > > > > > > Also since when is health care a right? I mean, really, don't we all > have a > > > worth? Some people are not worth as much as others right? Would you > gve > > > the president the same worth as, lets say, a convicted murder or child > > > molester? Is health care a business or a right? Kevin supports full > > > health cae for children, but aren't we allowing parents to slip their > > > responsibility by doing that? > > > > > > BTW I do ok, but I am certainly not "Upper Middle Class" or a boy. > Middle I > > > could dealt with, but not the upper. Now once I get my CISSP out of the > > > way.... > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 11:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: The Des Moines Register > > > > > > > > > > um... we aren't talking about education, we are talking about health > care. > > > > I realize you work hard. I don't find that terribly relevant however, > or > > > > even terribly interesting. Upper middle class boy feels he has pulled > > > > himself by his bootstraps. Yawn. It's almost a cliche. > > > > > > > > I would however love to hear a bright idea for improving healthcare. > > > > Socialized medecine perhaps does a better job if you take a societal > view; > > > > but as someone who would probably now be dead if the British health > care > > > > system had had its way, I don't find that to be an acceptable answer. > (I > > > > prefer not to post my medical details on a public board but if anyone > > > > wants to challenge that statement I will provide details offline). Nor > do > > > I > > > > find it acceptable that the Ontario system decides when and if genetic > > > > screening is required. (Again details offline if anyone doubts). > > > > > > > > The health care system in the US is excellent for those who have > access to > > > > it; this however begs the question of what can be done about those > that > > > > don't. I find it unacceptable that health care be rationed by type of > > > > employer either. > > > > > > > > And sorry, I don't have an answer. But at least I see the problem. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > Tim Heald writes: > > > > > > > > > Let them drop dead? Why not let them work hard, go to shool at > night > > > and > > > > > provide for themselves? Let them enlist if they can't afford an > > > education!! > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:29 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: The Des Moines Register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But now that he has contributed to the whining I am curious as to > his > > > > > > opinion -- whether he thinks it doesn't need fixing or if he does > what > > > he > > > > > > thinks needs to happen. I realize that I am leaving the door open > for > > > > > > another "let them drop dead" discussion but while I rarely agree > with > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > he does give his opinions some thought usually... so I am just > > > wondering. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim Heald writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the point wa sthat he wasn't the one whining about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:43 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: The Des Moines Register > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what is your plan to improve health care? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Schmidt writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG. I just got done reading the editorial in the local POS > > > > > newspaper > > > > > > > here. It was authored by the editorial board. They were > basically > > > > > trashing > > > > > > > the current health care system. One sentence that struck me as > > > > > illustrating > > > > > > > their keen inight was the following: Stupid, stupid, stupid. > That > > > is > > > > > how > > > > > > > they described the health care system in the country today. > Ahh, > > > but > > > > > alas, > > > > > > > in typical left-wing fashion they wailed and moaned at how bad > > > things > > > > > were, > > > > > > > and then offered no solution. Truly sad. If you want to say > > > something > > > > > is > > > > > > > "Stupid, stupid, stupid." at least have an idea to solve the > > > percieved > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Schmidt > > > > > > > > > Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer > > > > > > > > > Member Team Macromedia > > > > > > > > > 515.727.4554 H > > > > > > > > > 515.556.4018 C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
