Yeah would be good for the jobs we are creating up there.

Timothy Heald
Information Systems Specialist
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2235


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:04 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Drug reimportation


not that I speak for Canada or anything... but if I did you'd have a deal.
Save enough on the reduced medical bills to make it worthwhile to to import
cars frm Japan, and they are better quality too.

Daba

Heald, Tim writes:

> Gladly.
> 
> Timothy Heald
> Information Systems Specialist
> Overseas Security Advisory Council
> U.S. Department of State
> 571.345.2235
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:11 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Drug reimportation
> 
> 
> oooooo kaaaaayyy.... you want to be the one to tell the big three they
have
> to move their auto plants? 
> 
> Dana
> 
> Tim Heald writes:
> 
> > Trees, apples, cars, minerals.  Everything would be subject to tarrifs.
> > Canada could not survive without goods from the US also.  Cut off their
> > supply of Ameirican goods (drugs too).
> > 
> > Tim
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Drug reimportation
> > 
> > 
> > > <g> you want to stop importing from Canada because you don't like
their
> > > medical system? I can hear the giggles in Ottawa now :) The US needs
the
> > > water and oil more than Canada needs the revenue imho :)
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 22 July 2003 15:21
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: Drug reimportation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My sides break down like this.  Many countries have price
> > > > > controls limiting
> > > > > the amount of profit a company can make over the cost of
production.
> > This
> > > > > limits the amount of money that company would have to reinvest in
> > itself.
> > > > > Now the US doesn't have these controls, and so they charge us what
> the
> > > > > market will support, and use it for R&D.  So basically the price
> > controls
> > > > > from overseas are already hurting us, because it makes us pay more
> > since
> > > > > they are not supporting the costs involved in research.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the other hand as a supporter of free trade, I don't see how
you
> > can
> > > > > really prevent people from ordering things from other countries
> (this
> > gets
> > > > > complicated as we are talking about things that are potentially
> > illegal in
> > > > > the US without a prescription).
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think this going to help anything.  I would prefer to see
> > > > > us attempt
> > > > > to get other countries to lift their profit limits off of the
drugs,
> > there
> > > > > by equaling out some of the burden being placed on the American
> > consumer
> > > > > right now. I would say that it would even be in our interest to
> > penalize
> > > > > nations that continue this practice by charging extra tariffs on
> goods
> > > > > imported from their countries.
> > > > >
> > > > > Timothy Heald
> > > > > Information Systems Specialist
> > > > > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > > > > U.S. Department of State
> > > > > 571.345.2235
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: Drug reimportation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah it is tough to pick a side. A couple of random thoughts, then
I
> > gotta
> > > > > go...
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) I don't see the big deal about the abortion pill. We are
talking
> > about
> > > > > something that prevents an egg from implanting, maybe four cells
at
> > that
> > > > > point. In my mind this does not amount to killing babies.
> Furthermore
> > the
> > > > > technique is already available in the US, just not in exactly the
> > right
> > > > > dosage as this would be.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) if you re-import from countries that have price controls aren't
> you
> > > > > benefiting from those price controls?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) Seems to be I looked into it a while back and drub companies
> > > > > were making
> > > > > pretty good profits. WHy not have them pay some of their own r&d
> > costs?
> > > > > They are tax deductible anyway...
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) If I didn't have coverage my family would be paying about $500
a
> > month
> > > > > for prescriptions and that's for nothing more than allergies and
> adhd.
> > The
> > > > > interferon I am supposed to start taking next month would be out
of
> > the
> > > > > question.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dana
> > > > >
> > > > > Heald, Tim writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/22/politics/22DRUG.html?ex=10594512
> > > > > 00&en=b529
> > > > > > 7c3f83c9c335&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Interesting article.  Tough to pick a side really.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Timothy Heald
> > > > > > Information Systems Specialist
> > > > > > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > > > > > U.S. Department of State
> > > > > > 571.345.2235
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:52 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: RE: And we Americans are sue happy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually alcohol can be good for you. Small quantities have a
> > beneficial
> > > > > > health impact.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For some reason tea-total people don't live as long as people
> > > > > that enjoy a
> > > > > > glass of wine every so often.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Sent: 22 July 2003 14:49
> > > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: And we Americans are sue happy?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, litigation seems to be the only form of checks and
> balances
> > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > against the private sector. It's better than the alternative,
> > > > > > > which is more
> > > > > > > government regulation. I actually think the tobacco company
> > > > > lawsuits did
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > fair amount of good. If nothing else it probably kept taxes
> lower
> > in a
> > > > > > > number of states.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dana
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adam Reynolds writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like this.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately I think that this type of action is sometimes
> > > > > necessary
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > make an industry more responsible for itself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: 21 July 2003 23:16
> > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > > > > Subject: And we Americans are sue happy?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20030720-100147-7083r.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "A dozen alcoholics ranging in age from 18 to 60 are going
> to
> > > > > > > sue drink
> > > > > > > > > makers for not warning them about the dangers of alcohol."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Of course, the attorneys are using US law examples from
> > > > > the tobacco
> > > > > > > > > suits.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 

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