Right now most of it is no real breadcrumbs, arbitrary categories, 
navigation is mostly menu pages with no way to go up or down the 
hierarchies, I could go on and on.

Most of usability is common sense backed up by research. Designing Web 
Usability by Jakob Nielsen, Usability for the Web: Designing Web Sites that 
Work by Brinck, Gergle and Wood, and Don't Make Me Think: A Common Sense 
Approach to Web Usability by Steve Krug are the three books I strongly 
recommend in this area.  If coders would have a better understanding of 
good usability and IA I figure that our jobs would be 10 times easier.

larry

At 10:44 AM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
> From what I understand we, diplomatic security, are using states header for
>now while we come up with our that has the same feel.  We have already
>looked at different ways we can do things like have cross domain
>breadcrumbs.  What kinds of navigation problems are you running into most
>commonly.
>
>I will be honest.  I am good, real good, with code and architecture and db
>design.  That's my strength.  Usability, design, color schemes, branding,
>accessibility, these are really my weaknesses.
>
>Tim
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:41 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: IA and Usability. Was New Site, Reviews?
>
>
>Lately it seems that most of the work I've been doing has been more
>oriented to information architechure/design and usability. For instance
>right now I'm doing a reworking of a site that's just a nightmare in terms
>of navigation and accessibility. Simply nuts. I figure that its going to
>take me about twice as long to rework the navigation than if I started from
>scratch and did it right the first time.
>
>There are times I'd just love to slap the idiots who originally designed
>this crap. It may not correct things but it would make me feel a lot better
>right now.
>
>larry
>
>At 10:28 AM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
> >I agree with the roll over, but it's their header :(
> >
> >However the 508 stuff does need to be added.
> >
> >Timothy Heald
> >Information Systems Manager
> >Overseas Security Advisory Council
> >U.S. Department of State
> >571.345.2235
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:20 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Re: New Site, Reviews?
> >
> >
> >Looks good in Mozilla, 1024x 768. I'll check it tonight on the iBook with
> >Safari and the other Mac browsers. One comment, and this is just a personal
> >preference, but on your links graphics make them a rollover, so the users
> >gets more feedback. Also I take it that its just an initial take on the
> >site, but you may want to implement accessibility now rather than
> >retroactively. Since its probably going to be a government site, you do
> >have to implement it.
> >
> >larry
> >
> >At 09:52 AM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
> > >Tim, I really like the look and feel! Looks very sharp :)
> > >
> > >The only thing I'd change is on the red nav bar, there seems to be a
> > >lot of leading space before the word home. I know it's because of a
> > >fluid table. I'm on IE 6 1024X768. Maybe you could make the search box's
> > >right space (the tan area) instead of the left red space. Does that make
> > >sense?
> > >
> > >I think you did a great job!
> > >
> > >
> > >Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
> > >The Children's Medical Center
> > >One Children's Plaza
> > >Dayton, OH 45404
> > >937-641-4293
> > >http://www.childrensdayton.org
> > >
> > >
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/9/2003 9:14:11 AM >>>
> > >Hey kids,
> > >
> > >Got a beta site/cms set up last night.  Can't let you guys into the
> > >admin,
> > >but I figured I would solicit some opinions about the front end.
> > >
> > >The site is http://rome.ds-osac.org.  Basically a test of the CMS I
> > >wrote
> > >following an application service provider model, so we can now just
> > >put
> > >these out, pretty much at will.
> > >
> > >Also I only have IE so if you guys run into anything with browsers
> > >please
> > >let me know.
> > >
> > >Tim
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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