second that observation. I loved reading Xanth and Anthony's other
creations, but when I got older, the subtexts jumped out at me in a way
they hadn't when I was 10 or so. Kind of hard to read these days.
And, despite Heinlein's sexism, "Job" is still one of my favorite books
of all time - one of the few that I read every year. Actually, his
sexism there is considerably more muted and he plays with the idea of
casual sex as a societal (and personal) norm there.
- Jim
Kevin Graeme wrote:
>Well it is somewhat pornographic and Heinlein was a sexist SOB, but that
>book was so chocked full of other good stuff that it is regarded as an
>important piece of classic sci-fi. I've owned several copies of it and even
>have a leatherbound edition. The funny thing is that, like with the Piers
>Anthony books, when I read them as a kid it was all about the ideas of
>humanity and philosophy that it expressed, but now as an adult I have real
>trouble getting past the sexism. In some ways I find that as interesting as
>the book itself.
>
>One thing to keep in mind is that the book is a creation of its time. In the
>classic non-fiction work of futurism Future Shock, Alvin Toffler also
>espoused that sex would be carefree, that airlines would cater to business
>men (note: men) by having stewardesses that would provide sex and drugs
>during the flight. And that undersea exploration would provide amazing new
>psychotropic drugs that would make everyone happy.
>
>The only difference in the science fiction and non-fiction of the time was
>that the fiction made use of plot and characters.
>
>-Kevin
>
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>Subject: RE: Texas High School may ban Huxley and Heinlein...
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>>"Stranger in a Strange Land - which Wilde said she did not read "
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>>Why am I not surprised.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:30 AM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Texas High School may ban Huxley and Heinlein...
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>>...you know, for the CHILDREN
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>http://www.themonitor.com/NewsPub/News/Stories/2003/09/22/10642896312.shtml
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><http://www.themonitor.com/NewsPub/News/Stories/2003/09/22/10642896312.shtml
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>>Heaven forbid a high school student, subject to "inappropriate sexual
>>arousal" be exposed to Brave New World or Stranger in a Strange Land.
>>If the concerned (read: negligent) parents feel these two excellent
>>books are simlpy pornographic, I might suggest we take up a collection
>>to send them a copy of this:
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>>http://makeashorterlink.com/?I30A21EF5
>><http://makeashorterlink.com/?I30A21EF5>
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>>- Jim
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