LOL if he's such a dedicated national icon he can go and do duty in iraq
and next time we lose more soldiers in a car bombing he might realize
the guy he treated like a piece of garbage was right.

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-----Original Message-----
From: brob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Bill O'Reilly

I thought Bill went overboard on this one.  heh
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dana Tierney
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:18 AM
  Subject: Re: Bill O'Reilly

  I dont know much about the guy but after reading this I dont have a
lot of
  interest in finding out more. Yes, it's his mike, but he *invited*
this
  guy, how dare he talk to him like this? Talk about exploiting a
tragedy.

  John Stanley writes:

  > good one
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: cantrl. a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:57 PM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: Re:Bill O'Reilly
  >
  >
  > You can find the archived video online with a search. Fair and
balanced.
  >
  > Partial Transcript: The O'Reilly Factor 2-4-03
  >
  > O'REILLY: In the "Personal Stories" segment tonight, we were
surprised to
  > find out than an American who lost his father in the World Trade
Center
  > attack had signed an anti-war advertisement that accused the USA
itself of
  > terrorism. The offending passage read, "We too watched with shock
the
  > horrific events of September 11... we too mourned the thousands of
innocent
  > dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage -- even
as we
  > recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and a generation
ago,
  > Vietnam." With us now is Jeremy Glick, whose father, Barry, was a
Port
  > Authority worker at the Trade Center. Mr. Glick is a co-author of
the book
  > "Another World is Possible." I'm surprised you signed this. You were
the
  > only one of all of the families who signed...
  >
  > JEREMY GLICK: Well, actually, that's not true.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Who signed the advertisement?
  >
  > GLICK: Peaceful Tomorrow, which represents 9/11 families, were also
  > involved.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Hold it, hold it, hold it, Jeremy. You're the only one who
signed
  > this advertisement.
  >
  > GLICK: As an individual.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Yes, as -- with your name. You were the only one. I was
surprised,
  > and the reason I was surprised is that this ad equates the United
States
  > with the terrorists. And I was offended by that.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, you say -- I remember earlier you said it was a moral
  > equivalency, and it's actually a material equivalency. And just to
back up
  > for a second about your surprise, I'm actually shocked that you're
  > surprised. If you think about it, our current president, who I feel
and many
  > feel is in this position illegitimately by neglecting the voices of
Afro-
  > Americans in the Florida coup, which, actually, somebody got
impeached for
  > during the Reconstruction period -- Our current president now
inherited a
  > legacy from his father and inherited a political legacy that's
responsible
  > for training militarily, economically, and situating geopolitically
the
  > parties involved in the alleged assassination and the murder of my
father
  > and countless of thousands of others. So I don't see why it's
surprising...
  >
  > O'REILLY: All right. Now let me stop you here. So...
  >
  > GLICK: ... for you to think that I would come back and want to
support...
  >
  > O'REILLY: It is surprising, and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why
it's
  > surprising.
  >
  > GLICK: ... escalating...
  >
  > O'REILLY: You are mouthing a far left position that is a marginal
position
  > in this society, which you're entitled to.
  >
  > GLICK: It's marginal -- right.
  >
  > O'REILLY: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're -- you see,
even --
  > I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I don't
think your
  > father would be approving of this.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency was
  > illegitimate.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Maybe he did, but...
  >
  > GLICK: I also didn't think that Bush...
  >
  > O'REILLY: ... I don't think he'd be equating this country as a
terrorist
  > nation as you are.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Yes, you are. You signed...
  >
  > GLICK: What I'm saying is...
  >
  > O'REILLY: ... this, and that absolutely said that.
  >
  > GLICK: ... is that in -- six months before the Soviet invasion in
  > Afghanistan, starting in the Carter administration and continuing
and
  > escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited a
hundred
  > thousand radical mujahadeens to combat a democratic government in
  > Afghanistan, the Turaki government.
  >
  > O'REILLY: All right. I don't want to...
  >
  > GLICK: Maybe...
  >
  > O'REILLY: I don't want to debate world politics with you.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, why not? This is about world politics.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Because, No. 1, I don't really care what you think.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, OK.
  >
  > O'REILLY: You're -- I want to...
  >
  > GLICK: But you do care because you...
  >
  > O'REILLY: No, no. Look...
  >
  > GLICK: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Here's why I care.
  >
  > GLICK: ... to rationalize...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Here's why I care...
  >
  > GLICK: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from
domestic
  > plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.
  >
  > O'REILLY: OK. That's a bunch...
  >
  > GLICK: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 families.
  >
  > O'REILLY: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11
families by
  > their own admission -- I've done more for them than you will ever
hope to
  > do.
  >
  > GLICK: OK.
  >
  > O'REILLY: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting
those
  > people.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, you're not representing me. You're not representing me.
  >
  > O'REILLY: And I'd never represent you. You know why?
  >
  > GLICK: Why?
  >
  > O'REILLY: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped
view of
  > this country.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, explain that. Let me give you an example of a
parallel...
  >
  > O'REILLY: No, I'm not going to debate this with you, all right.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, let me give you an example of parallel experience. On
September
  > 14...
  >
  > O'REILLY: No, no. Here's -- here's the...
  >
  > GLICK: On September 14...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Here's the record.
  >
  > GLICK: OK.
  >
  > O'REILLY: All right. You didn't support the action against
Afghanistan to
  > remove the Taliban. You were against it, OK.
  >
  > GLICK: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people
in
  > Afghanistan...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Who killed your father!
  >
  > GLICK: The people in Afghanistan...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Who killed your father.
  >
  > GLICK: ... didn't kill my father.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Sure they did. The al Qaeda people were trained there.
  >
  > GLICK: The al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?
  >
  > O'REILLY: See, I'm more angry about it than you are!
  >
  > GLICK: So what about George Bush?
  >
  > O'REILLY: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.
  >
  > GLICK: The director -- senior as director of the CIA.
  >
  > O'REILLY: He had nothing to do with it.
  >
  > GLICK: So the people that trained a hundred thousand Mujahadeen who
were...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Man, I hope your mom isn't watching this.
  >
  > GLICK: Well, I hope she is.
  >
  > O'REILLY: I hope your mother is not watching this because you --
that's it.
  > I'm not going to say anymore.
  >
  > GLICK: OK.
  >
  > O'REILLY: In respect for your father...
  >
  > GLICK: On September 14, do you want to know what I'm doing?
  >
  > O'REILLY: Shut up. Shut up.
  >
  > GLICK: Oh, please don't tell me to shut up.
  >
  > O'REILLY: As respect -- as respect -- in respect for your father,
who was a
  > Port Authority worker, a fine American, who got killed unnecessarily
by
  > barbarians...
  >
  > GLICK: By radical extremists who were trained by this government...
  >
  > O'REILLY: Out of respect for him...
  >
  > GLICK: ... not the people of America.
  >
  > O'REILLY: ... I'm not going to...
  >
  > GLICK: ... The people of the ruling class, the small minority.
  >
  > O'REILLY: Cut his mic. I'm not going to dress you down anymore, out
of
  > respect for your father. We will be back in a moment with more of
THE
  > FACTOR.
  >
  > GLICK: That means we're done?
  >
  > O'REILLY: We're done.
  >
  >
  > >Started a book last night by Bill O'Reilly.
  > >I have to say I really haven't heard of the guy. I admit I don't
watch
  > >Fox and maybe my head is a little too buried in the computer screen
  > >sometimes ... But I truly haven't been following the "O'Reilly
  > >phenomenon".
  > >
  > >I am intrigued by the book. Starts out great (love the family
part),
  > >then sorta slides into a diatribe about politicians, government
programs
  > >and slams against the Clintons and George Clooney (justified or
not, I'm
  > >not making any decisions or stating opinions, just relating how it
reads
  > >so far).
  > >
  > >The reason I bought the book was because of a Parade article in the
  > >Sunday paper a couple of weeks ago.
  > >
  > >I'm about halfway through it and took some time to look him up on
the
  > >net this morning. His philosphy about friends and surrounding
yourself
  > >with kind and generous people echoes mine, so I was curious about
what
  > >else he had to say.
  > >
  > >
  > >So far, I can only find two kinds of information about him.
  > >
  > >1) Total adoration and hand clapping.
  > >
  > >2) Total vilification and booing.
  > >
  > >
  > >Since this community is SO MUCH MORE in touch with
  > >politics/reporters/current events than I, I was wondering if anyone
here
  > >had anything to say about him?
  > >
  > >I am only asking for constructive opinions, not "Why that SOB, he's
a
  > >slime worse than warm runny cowsh$t" Well, that may be a valid
opinion
  > >:D ... But I was hoping for something informative.
  > >
  > >Just my idle curiosity for the day ... I'm not too sure what to
make of
  > >him yet.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >Cheers,
  > >Erika
  > >
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