Charlie,

Been there, done that, agree wholeheartedly (pun intented) with Sagan.

-Ben

>I agree with Ben here.  Being in the depression did nothing to lift
>the fog.  But after the depression subsided, I was so grateful to not
>only be able to be happy again, but just to be alive, that my outlook
>on a lot of things changed.  I think Carl Sagan said something along
>the lines of "everyone should have a near-death experience, as it will
>make them appreciate each remaining day".  I very much agree :)
>
>charlie
>
  
>----- Original Message -----
  
>From: Ben Doom
  
>To: CF-Community
  
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:20 AM
  
>Subject: Re: depression
>
>
  
>Hmm.
>
  
>I think I understand what she's getting at in a way, but I think of it
>
  
>differently.
>
  
>I've not been this bad in quite a while, but it used to be that
  
>sometimes I'd be too depressed to get out of bed, get food, or
>anything
  
>basic like that, much less fight depression.
>
  
>Those moments did give me a clearer path, and motivation.  This is not
>
  
>so much because depression itself "lifted the fog" or whatever, but
  
>reminded me that I NEVER WANT TO GO BACK THERE AGAIN and so I renew my
>
  
>search for ways out of depression.
>
  
>Personally, though, the depths of depression didn't lift the fog so
>much
  
>as make the world so dark that I couldn't see the fog to begin with.
>
  
>--benD
>
  
>Candace Cottrell wrote:
>
  
>> I read a novel by an author who was clinically depressed and still
  
>> battles it. (I mean really depressed, not just blue like me) I loved
>the
  
>> book, and when I met her she told me something I found so unique,
  
>> interesting, and bizarre all at the same time.
  
>>
  
>> She said that when you are in a deep depression, don't fight it. She
>
  
>> said that that is the one time in your life when you will see things
>for
  
>> what they are. She said the fog that we all live in is suddenly
>lifted
  
>> when she was depressed and that when she came out of her depression,
>she
  
>> suddenly knew what she had to do. She said it was God's way of
>telling
  
>> her to stop and wake up.
  
>>
  
>> It seems a bit strange, but I can kinda see her point. I think the
  
>> exception to this would be if you are having suicidal
>thoughts/leanings.
  
>>
  
>> What do you all think?
  
>>
  
>> Candace K. Cottrell, Web Developer
  
>> The Children's Medical Center
  
>> One Children's Plaza
  
>> Dayton, OH 45404
  
>> 937-641-4293
  
>> http://www.childrensdayton.org
  
>>
  
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
>>
  
>>  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2003 11:47:35 AM >>>
  
>>  > What really sux is that depression is always going to be a part
>of
  
>>  > you.  Can't avoid it.
  
>>
  
>> Well, yes and no.  You will always know that you have a
>predisposition
  
>> towards depression.  However, several people I know have eventually
  
>> "come out of it".  That is, they lead "normal" lives with no more
  
>> depressive symptoms than the average person and no drugs.
  
>>
  
>> Some people live their whole lives with it.  Some don't.  Don't ask
>me
  
>> what the difference is, though.
  
>>
  
>> --BenD
  
>>
  
>>
  
>>
  
>>
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