"your child's death" as the basis for the punishment system.
Using emotional standards for public policy is not a good thing - its
how we get mobs, riots and lynching (often of the wrong people). The
reason that the law exists is to create a dispassionate forum for
addressing crime when we, the citizens, find ourselves unable to
emotionally dissociate ourselves from the situations.
Your arguments center on allowing those in extremes states (of stress or
emotion) to make life-and-death decisions - in other words those very
states that most impair our decision making process.
It sounds a good in a perfect system of assignment of guilt, but we lack
that (and probably always will). Personally I am for the death penalty,
in theory, but find our discovery and assignment of guilt processes to
be questionable. I am thus willing to live with (on the societal level)
some mistakes - as long as those mistakes were the result of an honest,
dispassionate system's hunt for the truth. Emotional mob justice is
generally neither.
Jim Davis
-----Original Message-----
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:52 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Justice, capital Punishmnet (Was RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!)
You see you can't even come up with a compromise to the issue. It's all
or
it's none.
Is it immoral to kill someone even if the person is a killer? Should the
punishment be more severe for multiple murders? Like a good stoning vs a
lethal injection? Most the people that complain about how horrible
capital
punishment is would sing a different tune if you walked up and caped one
of
there kids. I had this argument with someone that actually said "Well
that's
different", BullSh*t! the victim was someone's child.
What about rape? 1 rape gets you sodomized, 2 rapes gets you castrated,
3 or
more death? Ask the victim.
What about a petafile? Is it the same for rape, is that just?
We should send them all to another over populated prison so we can pay
for
their 3 hots and a cot while they learn how not to get caught.
We should rehabilitate them all.
So if the victim's family can't do the honors. Then the court can
appoint
the executioner. Shouldn't the family have the choice to do it. Oh!
Shouldn't the family be able to say no don't execute the killer? Well
know
it's a crime against society and a jury needs to decide. That brings us
back
to what is just. Is any killer worth more than there crime?
Rage crimes! Justifiable Hiomiside.
A, B, C and D are in a bar.
A came to Kill B and does so (Pre Meditated Murder)
C not knowing of A's intent Kills A immediately afterwards. (Rage Crime)
D Came with A and kills C for killing A.
What happens to D?
Rick
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From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:29 AM
To: CF-Community
thats hardly justice, some people are more screamish than others
-----Original Message-----
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 October 2003 16:20
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
I think the victim's family should be the ones to administer the death
penalty. If they fail to throw the switch, pull the trigger or eject the
poison then its up to the court to find another solution, like the life
in
prison.
Rick
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From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:55 AM
To: CF-Community
Yup. The daughter is clearly not a saint. But what we are talking
about
her
is the right of revenge. Out of curiosity, what is your view of the
death
penalty?
-----Original Message-----
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:22 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
> To hurt the daughter
She slept with his boss and is now going on a romantic vacation him.
This
had been going on for sometime.
> . To Hurt the Mom, when she discovered that the dude didn't
really
like
> her(whether he did or not will be become irrelevant once she finds
out
the
> sequence of events), didn't think her attractive, but was using her
as a
> weapon to hurt her daughter.
She wanted it! Note the rubbers and the argument in the street. When
did
he
say she wasn't attractive? Using her yes but only in part, the bar
seen
seem
to expose the desire for wanting to be with older/younger partners.
> To destroy the mother daughter relationship - which is the likely
end to
this story
Unlikely unless they are shallow, you can't loose your family. Two
adults
living together and she dumped him. Let's also not forget that she
lied
directly to her mother about cheating and accused the boyfriend of
being a
liar.
You know it is possible that the mother and boyfriend will hit it off.
Rick
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From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:59 AM
To: CF-Community
I wasn't at all bothered by younger man with older woman, or older
woman
who
is looking for sex.
What bothered me, what made this film a tasteless humor that I think
disgusting, was the hurtful way that sex was used:
1. To hurt the daughter
2. To Hurt the Mom, when she discovered that the dude didn't
really
like
her(whether he did or not will be become irrelevant once she finds out
the
sequence of events), didn't think her attractive, but was using her as
a
weapon to hurt her daughter. T
3. To destroy the mother daughter relationship - which is the likely
end
to
this story
None of these are funny in any way at any time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:45 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
You know i have seen some moms who are smoking hot, would you be
this
disgusted if the girls mom was say some hot older woman you have
wanted
a long time?
--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
eDiets.com, Inc.
(OTCBB: EDET)
3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
F: (954) 360-9095
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:23 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
I may need that program to remove those images from my brain.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
Its ok they have a 12 step program for people tragically born
without
a
sense of humor :)
--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
eDiets.com, Inc.
(OTCBB: EDET)
3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
F: (954) 360-9095
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:29 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
Didn't even giggle once. Pretty sick actually.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:55 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: OMG FUNNY MOVIE!!
<http://www.milkandcookies.com/stuff/homebase.asx>
http://www.milkandcookies.com/stuff/homebase.asx
<http://www.milkandcookies.com/stuff/homebase.asx>
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<http://www.milkandcookies.com/stuff/homebase.asx>
<http://www.milkandcookies.com/stuff/homebase.asx>
Wear headphones LOL
--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
eDiets.com, Inc.
(OTCBB: EDET)
3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
F: (954) 360-9095
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
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