>I don't remember any Indian terrorists coming here to bomb us. Nor
>Mexicans, Japanese or Russians.
Look up the terrorists incident involving Sikh's or those involving Kashmiri.
How many drug related shootings and murders have been attributed to
Columbian or Mexican drug gangs?
Similarly wasn't there a couple of Chechin related shootings in Chicago a
couple of years ago?
You get my point in this case.
The point is that the guy wasn't even staying or attempting to enter the
US, he was going from one aircraft to another, transferring flights. The US
violated its own treaty obligations in this case involving international
air transport.
larry
>There's a stereotype of Middle-easterners being terrorists and it's caused
>by the fact that every one of the 911 terrorists was Middle-eastern, that
>243 Marines were killed in Lebanon, that Isreal is under constant siege
>from the Palestinians, and that they throw parades when Americans die.
>
>Ok, you don't agree with me. All I said was that it was right to be
>suspicious of him. He's a middle-easterner who's associated with somebody
>who is thought to be a terrorist, and he was returning from an Islamic
>country, on his way to Canada, which has far more liberal laws about
>people entering their country than we do. I never said it was right to
>torture him or deport him. He should have been given a lawyer at the very
>least. Above all, this is only if you believe everything he has to say.
>
>- Matt Small
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry C. Lyons
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
> Matthew,
>
> Britons and other Europeans also come into the US from Canada. So do
> Mexicans, Japanese, Indians and Russians. So what. Hell even Canadians
> come
> from Canada to the US. There are terrorists in all of the countries I
> mentioned. So does that give the US government the right to kidnap them
> and
> send them to somewhere else where he could be tortured?
>
> The guy was not staying in the US, he was changing planes to end his
> journey in Montreal, PQ Canada. He was not sneaking into the US. In
> contrast he was trying to get out of the country. His only crime so
> far, he
> slightly knew someone who may have been suspected of having terrorist
> ties.
> I say suspected because the American government has offered no substantive
> evidence that Alkamadi was in any way associated with any terrorist group.
>
> larry
>
> At 01:38 PM 11/5/2003, you wrote:
> >The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come into
> >the US via Canada. This is a suspicious situation, plain and simple. I
> >didn't agree with the fact that he was tortured or deported. I said it
> >was suspicious and I believe the right thing to do is to question
> further.
> >You don't have to give me one, the one taints the other two. I don't
> like
> >a lot of things going on with this kind of interrogation, but they were
> >right on the money in detaining him for further
> >questioning. Bigoted? How about realistic. Lots of people have been
> >"further questioned" for far less, including myself. I'm a young white
> >southern male.
> >
> >- Matt Small
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Raymond Camden
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> > Wow, so you listed 3 facts:
> >
> > 1) A middle-easterner living in Canada.
> >
> > So, is Canada just a bunch of white guys?
> >
> > 2) Coming back from a Middle-Eastern country.
> >
> > So all Middle-Eastern countries are under suspicion now?
> >
> > 3) Known contact with a terrorist.
> >
> > Wasn't he a suspected, not proven terrorist? Wasn't the contact from
> > years ago? I can maybe give you this one, but the other two are simply
> > wrong. Bigoted at worst.
> >
> > -rc
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:40 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> > >
> > >
> > > A Middle-Easterner living in Canada, coming back from a
> > > Middle-Eastern country, known contact with Middle-Eastern
> > > terrorists. That's suspicious. I didn't say guilty, I said
> > > suspicious.
> > >
> > > - Matt Small
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Raymond Camden
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:22 PM
> > > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't agree with the torture and deportation... but I
> > > > stand by the fact that it's a very suspicious scene.
> > >
> > > Why? You said he was middle eastern flying from a islamic
> > > country. Is
> > > that something rare? Doesn't this happen thousands of times
> > > a day? Is it
> > > suspicious to fly home?
> > >
> > > -ray
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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