Didn't the oracle say that she was the mother of the matrix as the
architect was the father of the matrix.
And agent smith being created by the matrix means his mother was the
oracle was it not?
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Gel;
Good interpretation, but there are few things... comments inline.
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>Neo killed Smith, because after Smith assimilated Neo, the Source was
>able to delete Smith. Smith, according to the Oracle, came about as a
>balance to Neo. His complete Opposite, but one which got out of control
>and became more powerful than it should.
>When there was no Neo..there was no need for a Smith, and the Source
>could gain control and directly delete it's rogue program through the
>link with Neo.
So that explains it.
>Neo touched the 'Source'.
Really? I thought the architect gave him the decision to either touch
the source or save Trinity.
> This seems to have enabled him to affect
>machines that have a connection to the source: The Sentinels and all
the
>other machines. Humans jacked into the matrix contain bio-mechanical
>augmentations to enable them to maintain this Brain-Machine connection
>through which the Matrix experience is transferred to their biological
>minds. Neo was able to operate this connection without needing to be
>hardwired into the matrix. He could only 'see' machinery that was
>connected to the Source, or which came from it after he lost his
>physical sight.
Again, he did not touch the source (according to the conversation with
the Architect), but perhaps saving Trinity was touching the 'source'. I
dunno, there seems to be something messianic about his choice, but this
does not explain his link with the machines. What was it the Oracle was
saying about his true nature, and how he wasn't ready to know about it
when he spoke to her?
>The little girl is supposedly the next 'One'. In the end of the movie
>the Oracle looks at the sunrise and asks Sati if she did that. Sati
>replies in the affirmative. Only someone with Neo's powers can effect
>such things in the Matrix.
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>Sati is a product of the union between a human and a program. (a woman
>and a sentinel got it on or something I guess..dunno really...).
This is not true. Sati's mother and father were both programs, I think
the mother was an accounting program of some sort.
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>An explanation of the exiled program, Sati's purpose, is with the
>Buddhist definition of the word, which most directly equates to
>'Conscience'. Through Sati a Buddhist believes we keep our minds in the
>present, ever watchful of evil slipping past our defences and keeping
>our path true to the way. Thus Sati could indeed be the next 'One' .
>Meant to constantly hold the Matrix true to it's new promise. When one
>meditates and leaves onself, Sati holds us true to the present when we
>return to ourselves.Sati is memory of the past, but only to better
>understand and see the Present. Sati is the experience one feels having
>understood questions posed by existence, having retrieved from memory
>the solution, and having solved the problem to understand the Present.
>It represents another otherwise disparate bit of philosophy which the
>Wachowski brothers inserted into the 'story' of the Matrix.
Wow.
>The programs and people assimilated by Smith were released (Repaired?)
>when the Smith 'virus' was destroyed.
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>Neo's 'code' was reinserted into the Matrix which was recreated, as the
>Architect predicted.
>But it all did not happen 'How' he thought it would.
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>This new Matrix is better than the last.
I agree, but think people will have trouble realizing it. The pair of
movies (2 and 3) together have about the same balance of action and
philosophy as the first one, yet people cannot deal with the resolutions
as they come up.
The one thing that I think you missed is the whole theme of love within
the perpective of the choice / determinism debate. The idea that Smith
cannot comprehend Neo's choice at the end, the architect cannot grasp
why he would choose to save Trinity, the Merovingian and his decision to
free Neo (and choice to allow weapons in easy reach of Trinity and her
mates), there are aspects of the human character the machines are
incapable of putting into a formula. This could be source of the
imbalance in the Architect's equations.
This being said, the decision of Sati's parents to have her is
perplexing: I do not trust the explanation her father offers if he is a
real program. The instinct of self-preservation is understandable, but
when he starts talking about honor and has that look on his face, that
told me there is something else at work. And when the Merovingian has it
explained to him why Trinity is going to kill him, that is crucial to
understanding the film: there is an indeterminable point at which people
will resist without regard to their own self-preservation. It is reached
when someone is in love, but the circumstances under which it evolves
are completely unpredictable.
The idea that this phenonmena occurs between two programs is insane.
Either the AI is forking and the source, architect, merovingian, etc.
have no clue this is happening, or one of the girls parents is lying
about who they are. Or this is just a plot hole, but I don't really
believe that.
And how about when agent smith called the Oracle his mother? WTF?
M
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