You should implement all the cf tags you need in jsp, import them into
a CF namespace, and do a find for <cf and replace with <cf: :-).

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jon
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Wednesday, November 26, 2003, 2:08:24 PM, you wrote:
JD> I had a few conversations that just made me sick.  First 10 seconds of
JD> background:

JD> I'm in a fortune 500 company that was bought by a fortune 50 company two
JD> years ago.  We made heavy use of CF, the new company has standardized on
JD> WebSphere and is pushing us in that direction with cattle prods.  For
JD> this reason we've been unable to upgrade CF past our current 4.5
JD> version.

JD> The arguments against upgrading have ranged from ridiculous to sublimely
JD> stupid.  For example:

JD> 1) We can't upgrade to MX because we have to focus on Java now.

JD> 2) There is no money for CF because we're looking at WebSphere (remember
JD> that WebSphere runs 10-20 times the cost of CF, without hardware).

JD> 3) That's not the enterprise direction.  We have to get our apps running
JD> on WebSphere as soon as we can.

JD> So last week I sent out an explanatory mail.  It explained that the
JD> reasons I've heard may be applicable to CF 4.5, but not to MX.  It
JD> described how CFMX is not a server, but rather a J2EE certified
JD> application.  I was eloquent on the fact that upgrading to MX would
JD> allow us to run our existing apps on WebSphere immediately - at a
JD> tremendous cost savings over rebuilding from scratch.  I explored to
JD> option to do this and still commit all new development to JSP on the
JD> same platform with full interoperability between CFML and JSP.

JD> As you might image I was completely ignored.  Not one comment on the
JD> substance of my message.

JD> I went to some of the management to ask if they'd seen it.  I got
JD> several responses:

JD> 1) "ColdFusion is a rust-in-place technology here.  We won't consider
JD> it."

JD> 2) "If you're not up to speed in WebSphere by midyear you won't have
JD> value to the company."

JD> 3) "I read it.  We can't consider ColdFusion now: we have to focus on
JD> Java."

JD> So, generally speaking, I'm depressed.  I remember when technical
JD> decisions were made by technical people.

JD> I'm going to stick it out as long as I can (and learn WebSphere)... but
JD> I think I'll be looking for work soon.

JD> Jim Davis

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