From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: Return of the King - SPOILER -
> I seem to remember the spider being able to talk (?) and Sam wearing the
> ring for a bit. I don't remember the "ghost army", although I thought it
> was very well executed.
No, the spider did not talk in the book, but we were given a very detailed
description of her past and thougts during that sceen in the book, and this
was handled in the older animated version by having her speak.
But yes, in the book, Sam wore the ring to sneak into the tower to rescue
Frodo.
>
> My GF (who only read half the first book) didn't understand where the
> elves were going on the ships. I didn't have an explanation; I got the
> impression that it was some form of heaven.
Basically, but in the book is was descibes as a 'haven." I beleive you have
to understand the Silimirilian to fully understand where the elves came from
and are going.
> I thought the Gollum intro was rather lame. I think the "Birthday Tree"
> was only mentioned once in the whole trilogy (although I seem to remember
> it being a symbolistic thing in the book).
If your are talking about Bilbo's "Party Tree" it comes up at least a few
times in the book. The Gollum intro was taking staight from the book, and I
rather enjoyed it. He has always described the ring as his precious and his
birthday present.
> a) I could have sworn that Gollum was not a Hobbit ( River Folk?
> ). Frodo even says at one point that "You weren't much different than a
> Hobbit once." However, during the commentary on one of the movies
(perhaps
> the first movie?) they say that Gollum was a Hobbit.
In the book, Gandolf descibes the "River Folk" as a people very closely
related to Hobbits, but a bit more primitive. Ther are also much older, and
could possibly be considered as ancerstors of the Hobbits, but that is not
explicitly spelled out.
> b) After the talk of hero songs at the end of Two Tours I was hoping to
> hear the story of "Nine Fingered Frodo."
Unfortunatly that is not from the book, only from the older animated
version.
> c) Merry and Pippen did a great job of being seriously while also
> entertaining. They are both men, right? Are they supposed to be gay?
Not explicitly. In the book they go on to have families and become
important Hobbits of the Shire. I would say that the male love that is
being descibed as homoerotic and/or gay in this list, is supposed to be
Chivileric and/or Esperit de Corps type feelings that are not very much used
in modern America outside of the military at least.
My two cents.
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