Alot of the cops i know don't call themselves Roadside Toll Collectors
for nothing ;)

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-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:16 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Speed Camera catches guy at 406mph

we just got them (speed/red light cameras, mobile and fixed - 14 months
- Winnipeg) . policing is tighter - functionally (12km over versus 15km
over standard policing) and in probability (ie you'll get nailed
everytime you speed through a given intersection - versus you might not
get pulled over depending on the priorities at the moment).

These tickets get immediately put into the "revenue" category of a city
running this type of program.

Here's a canned rant, just thinking aloud - maybe just trying to get a
reaction. I think it is fair to assume we accept a certain amount of
risk when drive. sh*t happens. part of the risks of getting behind the
wheel.
Consider:
Existing speed limits have existed for a long time. this translates to
an accepted level of risk.
Safety of equipment has increased dramtically since we first accepted
this level of risk - so the level of risk we are driving within has
dropped below our established tolerances for risk.

?? Wouldn't this lend itself to the argument to raise speed limits and
policing tolerances - rather than tighten?

or are we not willing to accept as much risk when driving these days?

Are the motivations of the people implementing these cameras NOT on
managing this level risk but rather financial? <obvious right?>

I think it is borderline unethical to put fines into a budget revenue
category. I would like to see fines for speeding applied as insurance
rebates for nonspeeders, funding safety related programs and that kind
of stuff.

I also think we need to remind our policy makers that money they collect
from taxes and fines etc - is my money. They are accountable to me, it
is my money they are allocating / spending - they are simply acting as
my agent.

Eric
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Raymond Camden
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:10 PM
  Subject: RE: Speed Camera catches guy at 406mph

  >
  > Yes, also red light cameras.
  > Was a controversy in San Francisco recently, seems the vendor
  > providing the red light camera service got paid per "piece",
  > illegal conflict of interest...
  >

  They are considering that here too... one thing confused me. They said
the
  company would get paid per ticket... but they were worried about
safety. If
  the company were getting paid per ticket, wouldn't they tend to OVER
ticket?
  How does a camera make an intersection unsafe?

  -rc
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