"but some of the reaction seemed to be just as unprofessional" ABSOLUTELY. I have formed some not so positive impressions about several posters based on their responses. I never seem to see the email that starts the exchanges, but I sure do see the rest.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Levi Wallach <l...@dvdmon.com> wrote: > > I find it fascinating watching these exchanges take place. I used to code > with Cold Fusion way back (99-'02) but haven't touched it since, but > somehow > remained a member of jobs-talk, but not of the general CF-Talk, probably > because this list gets generally little traffic. So I guess I am getting > only half of the conversation. It's obvious to me that Michael has annoyed > a lot of people and doesn't seem to care, but at the same time other > members > are so affected by messages that otherwise seem benign, that it seems the > whole situation has devolved into one that isn't on a professional level > but > a personal one. I wonder, whatever your opinion of Michael is, what good > does it do to vent about it in a public forum, other than to blow of some > steam (while at the same time presenting an unprofessional/negative aspect > of your own demeanor)? > > Being on the Internet for abour 20 years now (and BBS's before that) has > taught me a few things, some of them certainly useless, but a couple of > them > hopefully more useful. One is that it's hard to guage the tone of someone > and easy to misunderstand meaning online due to lack of body language, etc. > Because of this I always try to assume the best of intentions. Even if it's > hard to see those positive intentions, I often try to keep from responding > immediately myself if my reaction is strong and negative. Waiting until > that > initial emotional reaction has subsided, I can often think much more > clearly > and respond in a way that is more constructive than reactive. > > This is not to say that Michael didn't act unprofessionally, but some of > the > reaction seemed to be just as unprofessional. I did not see most of his > messages on this list (cf-jobs-talk) that I can remember, but if I was > seeing them on another list and got annoyed, I'd have either - 1) written > the moderator to express my concerns, or 2) sent Michael a private note > to express my concerns. Many of you may have done these things to no > avail, > but my final approach would have had 100% success: 3) create an email > rule/filter to remove his messages. It's amazing to me that despite > filtering technology like this being around for 20+ years, that ppl would > still rather get into long arguments than simply opt out of a certain > person's messages or discussion topics. This on a forum of highly > tech-savvy folks. > > Since none of you probably recognize my name, it should be evident that I > never post on these lists, and probably won't again for a while if ever, > but > something moved me to post about this (and perhaps I'll regret it later), > so > that perhaps some perspective from a semi-objective party might be useful > in > some way to a few of you. I know there's some irony in the fact I'm > suggesting people not speak out here about these things and then doing just > that, but just know there have been incidents in the past that I've > considered commenting on but haven't, so pershaps this is just my one > 'gaff' > that proves my general practices are better than this exception ;-) This is > really the first time if not ever, than in many years (and memory) that I > recall posting about an issue like this. I certainly understand annoyance > at unprofessional behavior and just idiotic behavior, but I also have > experienced a lot of real-life passive aggressive stuff so I sometimes > wonder whether some of the vitriol I see online is due to people who feel > powerless (or make themselves powerless) to do something about situations > in > real life that they are annoyed at/offended by/etc. and so this gets > transferred to a place they feel a bit more empowered to speak out? Or > maybe that's just pop psyche BS, who knows. > > Anyway, I'll shut up now and hope no one takes this personally (although > I'm > a bit pessimistic :-( ). > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Phillip Vector <vec...@mostdeadlygame.com > >wrote: > > > > > Larry, Thanks for the tip. :) I didn't know about this site. :) > > > > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Use justcoldfusionjobs.com > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4434 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
