It is obvious that the CF-JOBS list is for posting of JOBS, and
not for your immature nature. I am sure that everyone that
subscribes to this list is not interested in what I have to say to
you or visa-versa. In the furure you may want to consider posting
this to myself directly in order that others on this list do not
see you for the person that you actually are.


Sorry for replying here to all who subscribe.




Douglas Brown





Douglas Brown
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:53 PM
Subject: Fw: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of
experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?)


> Hi Everyone,
> I check the list regularly and noted Mr. Brown's post.
> I just wanted Mr. Brown to know the difference between proper
speech and
> writing.
> This is his response.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of
experience(Lee
> Foster/Plagiarism?)
>
>
> >       ass�hole   Pronunciation Key  (shl)
> >       n. Vulgar Slang
> >         1.. The anus.
> >         2.. A thoroughly contemptible, detestable person.
> >         3.. The most miserable or undesirable place in a
> > particular area.
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > --------
> >       [ass2 + hole.]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Douglas Brown
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of
> > experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?)
> >
> >
> > If you consider yourself such an articulate individual, you
> > clearly must be
> > referring only to speech.  Your spelling needs work.
> > 'I realize that their are people who just do not have a way
> > with words.'
> >
> > Main Entry: their
> > Pronunciation: [th]&r, '[th]er, '[th]ar
> > Function: adjective
> > Etymology: Middle English, from their, pronoun, from Old Norse
> > theirra,
> > genitive plural demonstrative & personal pronoun; akin to Old
> > English th�t
> > that
> > Date: 13th century
> > 1 : of or relating to them or themselves especially as
possessors,
> > agents,
> > or objects of an action <their furniture> <their verses>
<their
> > being seen>
> > 2 : his or her : HIS, HER, ITS -- used with an indefinite
third
> > person
> > singular antecedent <anyone in their senses -- W. H. Auden>
> > usage see THEY
> >
> > I believe you meant to write 'there are.  So if someone ripped
off
> > a
> > copyrighted work from you it would be a miracle if they made a
> > profit.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of
> > experience(Lee
> > Foster/Plagiarism?)
> >
> >
> > > I am sorry, call it a weakness, but I had to reply here. I
in no
> > > way disagree with you regarding the use of intellectual
property
> > > rights, but I believe that I would find myself flattered if
> > > someone did this. I am quite an articulate individual, and
as
> > > such, I realize that their are people who just do not have a
way
> > > with words. If someone were to rip off a copyrighted work
from
> > me
> > > and make a profit I would be upset, but to use those words
to
> > > simply find a job is another thing. I guess that you might
want
> > to
> > > consider putting a legal notice of intellectual rights
property
> > on
> > > your cover letter or wherever he copied this from. This
might
> > look
> > > awful funny to employers, but it would avoid you having to
flame
> > a
> > > person for trying to survive. P.S Lee if you need help
writing a
> > > good resume, let me know. I would be glad to help
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Success is a journey, not a destination!!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Doug Brown
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jason Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:10 AM
> > > Subject: OT: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of
> > > experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Excuse the off-topic post(this is meant to be a precisely
> > fired
> > > flame that
> > > > doesn't set everyone off - please follow up on
CF-Jobs-Talk,
> > > business ethics
> > > > is a great topic).
> > > >
> > > > Lee,
> > > >
> > > > Please regard this as a kind warning. It has recently came
to
> > my
> > > attention
> > > > that you have clearly and directly plagiarized my own
posting
> > on
> > > CF-Jobs.
> > > > While this is certainly not a controlled forum, my words
are
> > my
> > > intellectual
> > > > property and you will likely only hear them come out of my
> > mouth
> > > in that
> > > > certain order.
> > > >
> > > > Please refer to your post, dated Friday, April 05, 2002
> > 10:58am,
> > > that I am
> > > > replying to below. Notice the quotations email programs
> > > typically use.
> > > >
> > > > Here is a list of items you plagiarized from my post on
> > > Wednesday, February
> > > > 6, 2002 2:06pm :
> > > >
> > > > Paragraph 1
> > > > "I do realize the value of face-to-face contact and am
willing
> > > to travel. I
> > > > am available as an employee or contractor."
> > > >
> > > > Paragraph 2 (verbatim, come on)
> > > > "If you are in a position where you need an extra hand, I
can
> > > surely be of
> > > > assistance by providing efficient production and proven
> > > methodologies. If
> > > > you are looking for expertise in application development
and
> > > scaleable
> > > > database design, you'll likely find my extensive skill set
> > > fitting of your
> > > > exact needs."
> > > >
> > > > Paragraph 3 (this is absurd, verbatim again)
> > > > "While adding strong business awareness and experience as
a
> > > small business
> > > > owner, I can understand your need for focus, efficiency,
> > > strategy, and
> > > > returns. I look forward to hearing from you and providing
> > > remarkable
> > > > service."
> > > >
> > > > Paragraph 5 (closing thoughts too, you are too kind)
> > > > "From front-end interface design to back-end database
systems,
> > I
> > > can service
> > > > your needs effectively. I can be contacted via email or
> > > telephone."
> > > >
> > > > note: I originally had 'website' here too, you could go to
my
> > > site for the
> > > > code on the form. Just make sure to change the action to
your
> > > own processing
> > > > engine, I don't want to receive all your contacts.
> > > >
> > > > And Finally:
> > > >
> > > > You call yourself an (e)consultant, how cheesy is that?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > While I am flattered by your admirance of my words, it is
> > > necessary to set
> > > > the record straight. Your business integrity is obviously
> > flawed
> > > and if you
> > > > think you can be a successful consultant without upholding
the
> > > strongest of
> > > > moral values, you are more than wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Pardon to everyone who had to read this. I am not one to
rant
> > > and do not
> > > > want to start any flame wars here. Please understand my
> > position
> > > of replying
> > > > in public.
> > > >
> > > > A final note to Lee: There are reasons you were not
allowed to
> > > plagiarize in
> > > > high-school and in college you can be hung for not citing
> > > original works,
> > > > likely the military had similar policies; in reality there
are
> > > strong legal
> > > > consequences to such actions and the internet only makes
them
> > > easier to
> > > > enforce. The funny thing is, I was looking at your posts
to
> > see
> > > if you were
> > > > a possible candidate.
> > > >
> > > > While this post is not going to gain anything, I do hope
it
> > > enlightens you
> > > > to the ramnifications.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance. No, this is hardly my idea of a fun way
to
> > > start the
> > > > weekend.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Jason Gregory�
> > > > engineer, (e)consultant, free |a|gent
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 616-382-2118
> > > > http://www.soulardesign.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ps. My original post isn't in the List Archives. I was
going
> > to
> > > suggest
> > > > running WinDiff to all those who had some extra time with
> > > nothing to do. Oh
> > > > well, my bad for posting it to the wrong address. I think
> > > Micheal worked
> > > > some magic on the mail spool, many thanks to the admin
gods.
> > For
> > > the record,
> > > > I have posted my original message at the very bottom.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Foster, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:58 AM
> > > > Subject: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of
experience
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello All!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cold Fusion Developer using the fusebox methodology and
with
> > a
> > > solid
> > > > > background in SQL.  I also have a very solid background
in
> > > UNIX,
> > > > Windows-NT,
> > > > > Novell and maintaining a complex network.  I am seeking
a
> > > creative and
> > > > > exciting career opportunity as a contractor or permanent
> > work.
> > > Currently
> > > > > I'm looking for employment opportunities in Tennessee,
> > > Alabama, Kentucky,
> > > > > Ohio, Western North Carolina, Northern Mississippi or
> > > telecommuting
> > > > > opportunities at this time. While I'm working on a
> > > telecommuting projects,
> > > > I
> > > > > do realize the value of face-to-face contact and am
willing
> > to
> > > travel. I
> > > > am
> > > > > available as an employee or contractor.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are in a position where you need an extra hand, I
can
> > > surely be of
> > > > > assistance by providing efficient production and proven
> > > methodologies. If
> > > > > you are looking for expertise in application development
and
> > > scaleable
> > > > > database design, you'll likely find my extensive skill
set
> > > fitting of your
> > > > > exact needs.
> > > > > While adding strong business awareness and experience as
a
> > > small business
> > > > > owner, I can understand your need for focus, efficiency,
> > > strategy, and
> > > > > returns. I look forward to hearing from you and
providing
> > > remarkable
> > > > > service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recent work includes the web site, KeyOnMusic written
for up
> > > and coming
> > > > > musicians, http://www.keyonmusic.com and a upcoming web
site
> > > for a local
> > > > boy
> > > > > scout troop I'm  in part sponsoring
> > > http://www.keyonmusic.com/t133.
> > > > >
> > > > > >From front-end interface design to back-end database
> > systems,
> > > I can
> > > > service
> > > > > your needs effectively.
> > > > > I can be contacted via email or telephone.
> > > > > Thanks kindly, I look forward to discovering and help
you
> > > service your
> > > > > needs.
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen L. Foster
> > > > > (e)consultant, developer, Web Architect, Network
Engineer,
> > > System
> > > > > Administration
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Nashville, TN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > -------------------Begin Original
> > Post-------------------------
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> > > > Delivered-To: so3010906@mail-04
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> > > [64.118.64.245])
> > > >  by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA72558
> > > >  for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 6 Feb 2002
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> > Wed,
> > > 06 Feb 2002
> > > > 13:07:14 -0500
> > > > Message-ID:
<011201c1af39$0d3bbce0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > From: "Jason Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: engineer, (e)consultant, free |a|gent - expanding
and
> > > available
> > > > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:06:50 -0500
> > > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > >  charset="Windows-1252"
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain
> > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > To: CF-Jobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > As a long time CF Developer and list reader, the timing
seems
> > > right for me
> > > > to put my name out here. I am currently expanding my
client
> > base
> > > and in
> > > > search of new opportunities outside of my locale. While I
am
> > > generally
> > > > looking for telecommuting projects, I do realize the value
of
> > > face-to-face
> > > > contact and am willing to travel.
> > > >
> > > > If you are in a position where you need an extra hand, I
can
> > > surely be of
> > > > assistance by providing efficient production and proven
> > > methodologies. If
> > > > you are looking for expertise in application development
and
> > > scaleable
> > > > database design, you'll likely find my extensive skill set
> > > fitting of your
> > > > exact needs. If you are building a network of resources, I
> > would
> > > be
> > > > interested in discovering our synergies.
> > > >
> > > > When you become a client of mine, you can expect
> > > professionalism,
> > > > accountability, efficiency, fair pricing, and close
> > > communication. From the
> > > > beginning, my focus has been to create long-term
relationships
> > > with
> > > > development firms such as yours. Through assisting your
> > > immediate needs and
> > > > providing an extended resource to your team, I am positive
we
> > > can create a
> > > > value-expanding loop.
> > > >
> > > > While adding strong business awareness and experience as a
> > small
> > > business
> > > > owner, I can understand your need for focus, efficiency,
> > > strategy, and
> > > > returns. I look forward to hearing from you and providing
> > > remarkable
> > > > service.
> > > >
> > > > Speaking of services, the imperative laundry list of
language
> > > skills
> > > > follows.
> > > >
> > > > Cold Fusion, ASP, JSP, XML, WDDX, SQL6.5-2000, DB2, HTML,
> > DHTML,
> > > Javascript,
> > > > COM, WAP, WML, HDML...
> > > >
> > > > >From front-end interface design to back-end database
systems,
> > I
> > > can service
> > > > your needs effectively.
> > > >
> > > > I can be contacted via email, telephone or through my
website.
> > > For more
> > > > information and detailed background and project
information,
> > > visit
> > > > http://www.soulardesign.com .
> > > >
> > > > Thanks kindly, I look forward to discovering and servicing
> > your
> > > needs.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Jason Gregory
> > > > engineer, (e)consultant, free |a|gent
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 616-382-2118
> > > > http://www.soulardesign.com
> > > > Kalamazoo, MI
> > > >
> > >
> >
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