Can you guys please discuss this someplace else? I understand people are upset, but enough is enough.
Thanks, Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:15 PM Subject: Fw: Fw: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?) > My, aren't we a friendly bunch. > If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. > > I suppose I'll opt out of this list. There never seems to be any > opportunity for recruitment by making a post here anyway, from what I've > seen. > Too bad. I was hoping to find additional development work through this > list. I, myself, have 2 years experience of ColdFusion/html development, 6 > yrs SQL Server Administration and Windows NT 4 and recently W2K. I also > have 3 yrs experience with MS Exchange 5.5, DNS, IIS, SSL, and TCP/IP. > Shall I continue........... > > I thought I'd throw all of that in for fun, since the list seems to be > nothing more than a place for out of work developers to flatter themselves. > So Rebecca, it's up to me to "go away". > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:02 PM > Subject: Re: Fw: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of > experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?) > > > > Go away, please. > > > > DGW wrote: > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > I check the list regularly and noted Mr. Brown's post. > > > I just wanted Mr. Brown to know the difference between proper speech and > > > writing. > > > This is his response. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:46 PM > > > Subject: Re: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of > experience(Lee > > > Foster/Plagiarism?) > > > > > > > ass�hole Pronunciation Key (shl) > > > > n. Vulgar Slang > > > > 1.. The anus. > > > > 2.. A thoroughly contemptible, detestable person. > > > > 3.. The most miserable or undesirable place in a > > > > particular area. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -------- > > > > [ass2 + hole.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Douglas Brown > > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "DGW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 5:36 PM > > > > Subject: Re: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of > > > > experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?) > > > > > > > > > > > > If you consider yourself such an articulate individual, you > > > > clearly must be > > > > referring only to speech. Your spelling needs work. > > > > 'I realize that their are people who just do not have a way > > > > with words.' > > > > > > > > Main Entry: their > > > > Pronunciation: [th]&r, '[th]er, '[th]ar > > > > Function: adjective > > > > Etymology: Middle English, from their, pronoun, from Old Norse > > > > theirra, > > > > genitive plural demonstrative & personal pronoun; akin to Old > > > > English th�t > > > > that > > > > Date: 13th century > > > > 1 : of or relating to them or themselves especially as possessors, > > > > agents, > > > > or objects of an action <their furniture> <their verses> <their > > > > being seen> > > > > 2 : his or her : HIS, HER, ITS -- used with an indefinite third > > > > person > > > > singular antecedent <anyone in their senses -- W. H. Auden> > > > > usage see THEY > > > > > > > > I believe you meant to write 'there are. So if someone ripped off > > > > a > > > > copyrighted work from you it would be a miracle if they made a > > > > profit. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 12:51 PM > > > > Subject: Re: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of > > > > experience(Lee > > > > Foster/Plagiarism?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry, call it a weakness, but I had to reply here. I in no > > > > > way disagree with you regarding the use of intellectual property > > > > > rights, but I believe that I would find myself flattered if > > > > > someone did this. I am quite an articulate individual, and as > > > > > such, I realize that their are people who just do not have a way > > > > > with words. If someone were to rip off a copyrighted work from > > > > me > > > > > and make a profit I would be upset, but to use those words to > > > > > simply find a job is another thing. I guess that you might want > > > > to > > > > > consider putting a legal notice of intellectual rights property > > > > on > > > > > your cover letter or wherever he copied this from. This might > > > > look > > > > > awful funny to employers, but it would avoid you having to flame > > > > a > > > > > person for trying to survive. P.S Lee if you need help writing a > > > > > good resume, let me know. I would be glad to help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Success is a journey, not a destination!!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Doug Brown > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jason Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:10 AM > > > > > Subject: OT: re: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of > > > > > experience(Lee Foster/Plagiarism?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excuse the off-topic post(this is meant to be a precisely > > > > fired > > > > > flame that > > > > > > doesn't set everyone off - please follow up on CF-Jobs-Talk, > > > > > business ethics > > > > > > is a great topic). > > > > > > > > > > > > Lee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please regard this as a kind warning. It has recently came to > > > > my > > > > > attention > > > > > > that you have clearly and directly plagiarized my own posting > > > > on > > > > > CF-Jobs. > > > > > > While this is certainly not a controlled forum, my words are > > > > my > > > > > intellectual > > > > > > property and you will likely only hear them come out of my > > > > mouth > > > > > in that > > > > > > certain order. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please refer to your post, dated Friday, April 05, 2002 > > > > 10:58am, > > > > > that I am > > > > > > replying to below. Notice the quotations email programs > > > > > typically use. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is a list of items you plagiarized from my post on > > > > > Wednesday, February > > > > > > 6, 2002 2:06pm : > > > > > > > > > > > > Paragraph 1 > > > > > > "I do realize the value of face-to-face contact and am willing > > > > > to travel. I > > > > > > am available as an employee or contractor." > > > > > > > > > > > > Paragraph 2 (verbatim, come on) > > > > > > "If you are in a position where you need an extra hand, I can > > > > > surely be of > > > > > > assistance by providing efficient production and proven > > > > > methodologies. If > > > > > > you are looking for expertise in application development and > > > > > scaleable > > > > > > database design, you'll likely find my extensive skill set > > > > > fitting of your > > > > > > exact needs." > > > > > > > > > > > > Paragraph 3 (this is absurd, verbatim again) > > > > > > "While adding strong business awareness and experience as a > > > > > small business > > > > > > owner, I can understand your need for focus, efficiency, > > > > > strategy, and > > > > > > returns. I look forward to hearing from you and providing > > > > > remarkable > > > > > > service." > > > > > > > > > > > > Paragraph 5 (closing thoughts too, you are too kind) > > > > > > "From front-end interface design to back-end database systems, > > > > I > > > > > can service > > > > > > your needs effectively. I can be contacted via email or > > > > > telephone." > > > > > > > > > > > > note: I originally had 'website' here too, you could go to my > > > > > site for the > > > > > > code on the form. Just make sure to change the action to your > > > > > own processing > > > > > > engine, I don't want to receive all your contacts. > > > > > > > > > > > > And Finally: > > > > > > > > > > > > You call yourself an (e)consultant, how cheesy is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I am flattered by your admirance of my words, it is > > > > > necessary to set > > > > > > the record straight. Your business integrity is obviously > > > > flawed > > > > > and if you > > > > > > think you can be a successful consultant without upholding the > > > > > strongest of > > > > > > moral values, you are more than wrong. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pardon to everyone who had to read this. I am not one to rant > > > > > and do not > > > > > > want to start any flame wars here. Please understand my > > > > position > > > > > of replying > > > > > > in public. > > > > > > > > > > > > A final note to Lee: There are reasons you were not allowed to > > > > > plagiarize in > > > > > > high-school and in college you can be hung for not citing > > > > > original works, > > > > > > likely the military had similar policies; in reality there are > > > > > strong legal > > > > > > consequences to such actions and the internet only makes them > > > > > easier to > > > > > > enforce. The funny thing is, I was looking at your posts to > > > > see > > > > > if you were > > > > > > a possible candidate. > > > > > > > > > > > > While this post is not going to gain anything, I do hope it > > > > > enlightens you > > > > > > to the ramnifications. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. No, this is hardly my idea of a fun way to > > > > > start the > > > > > > weekend. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Gregory� > > > > > > engineer, (e)consultant, free |a|gent > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > 616-382-2118 > > > > > > http://www.soulardesign.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ps. My original post isn't in the List Archives. I was going > > > > to > > > > > suggest > > > > > > running WinDiff to all those who had some extra time with > > > > > nothing to do. Oh > > > > > > well, my bad for posting it to the wrong address. I think > > > > > Micheal worked > > > > > > some magic on the mail spool, many thanks to the admin gods. > > > > For > > > > > the record, > > > > > > I have posted my original message at the very bottom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Foster, Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:58 AM > > > > > > Subject: Cold Fusion Developer with over 6 years of experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cold Fusion Developer using the fusebox methodology and with > > > > a > > > > > solid > > > > > > > background in SQL. I also have a very solid background in > > > > > UNIX, > > > > > > Windows-NT, > > > > > > > Novell and maintaining a complex network. I am seeking a > > > > > creative and > > > > > > > exciting career opportunity as a contractor or permanent > > > > work. > > > > > Currently > > > > > > > I'm looking for employment opportunities in Tennessee, > > > > > Alabama, Kentucky, > > > > > > > Ohio, Western North Carolina, Northern Mississippi or > > > > > telecommuting > > > > > > > opportunities at this time. While I'm working on a > > > > > telecommuting projects, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > do realize the value of face-to-face contact and am willing > > > > to > > > > > travel. I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > available as an employee or contractor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are in a position where you need an extra hand, I can > > > > > surely be of > > > > > > > assistance by providing efficient production and proven > > > > > methodologies. If > > > > > > > you are looking for expertise in application development and > > > > > scaleable > > > > > > > database design, you'll likely find my extensive skill set > > > > > fitting of your > > > > > > > exact needs. > > > > > > > While adding strong business awareness and experience as a > > > > > small business > > > > > > > owner, I can understand your need for focus, efficiency, > > > > > strategy, and > > > > > > > returns. I look forward to hearing from you and providing > > > > > remarkable > > > > > > > service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent work includes the web site, KeyOnMusic written for up > > > > > and coming > > > > > > > musicians, http://www.keyonmusic.com and a upcoming web site > > > > > for a local > > > > > > boy > > > > > > > scout troop I'm in part sponsoring > > > > > http://www.keyonmusic.com/t133. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From front-end interface design to back-end database > > > > systems, > > > > > I can > > > > > > service > > > > > > > your needs effectively. > > > > > > > I can be contacted via email or telephone. > > > > > > > Thanks kindly, I look forward to discovering and help you > > > > > service your > > > > > > > needs. > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen L. Foster > > > > > > > (e)consultant, developer, Web Architect, Network Engineer, > > > > > System > > > > > > > Administration > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Nashville, TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------Begin Original > > > > Post------------------------- > > > > > > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Delivered-To: so3010906@mail-04 > > > > > > Received: from hof001.houseoffusion.com (houseoffusion.com > > > > > [64.118.64.245]) > > > > > > by mail.9netave.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA72558 > > > > > > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:38:53 -0500 > > > > > (EST) > > > > > > Received: from front2.chartermi.net ([24.213.60.124]) > > > > > > by hof001.houseoffusion.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 > > > > > release 223 > > > > > > ID# 0-54969U100L100S0V35) with ESMTP id com > > > > > > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > > > > Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:09:42 -0500 > > > > > > Received: from [24.247.126.9] (HELO watchdog) > > > > > > by front2.chartermi.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.3) > > > > > > with SMTP id 56815455 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > > > > Wed, > > > > > 06 Feb 2002 > > > > > > 13:07:14 -0500 > > > > > > Message-ID: <011201c1af39$0d3bbce0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > From: "Jason Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Subject: engineer, (e)consultant, free |a|gent - expanding and > > > > > available > > > > > > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:06:50 -0500 > > > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > charset="Windows-1252" > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > To: CF-Jobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > As a long time CF Developer and list reader, the timing seems > > > > > right for me > > > > > > to put my name out here. I am currently expanding my client > > > > base > > > > > and in > > > > > > search of new opportunities outside of my locale. While I am > > > > > generally > > > > > > looking for telecommuting projects, I do realize the value of > > > > > face-to-face > > > > > > contact and am willing to travel. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are in a position where you need an extra hand, I can > > > > > surely be of > > > > > > assistance by providing efficient production and proven > > > > > methodologies. If > > > > > > you are looking for expertise in application development and > > > > > scaleable > > > > > > database design, you'll likely find my extensive skill set > > > > > fitting of your > > > > > > exact needs. If you are building a network of resources, I > > > > would > > > > > be > > > > > > interested in discovering our synergies. > > > > > > > > > > > > When you become a client of mine, you can expect > > > > > professionalism, > > > > > > accountability, efficiency, fair pricing, and close > > > > > communication. From the > > > > > > beginning, my focus has been to create long-term relationships > > > > > with > > > > > > development firms such as yours. Through assisting your > > > > > immediate needs and > > > > > > providing an extended resource to your team, I am positive we > > > > > can create a > > > > > > value-expanding loop. > > > > > > > > > > > > While adding strong business awareness and experience as a > > > > small > > > > > business > > > > > > owner, I can understand your need for focus, efficiency, > > > > > strategy, and > > > > > > returns. I look forward to hearing from you and providing > > > > > remarkable > > > > > > service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of services, the imperative laundry list of language > > > > > skills > > > > > > follows. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cold Fusion, ASP, JSP, XML, WDDX, SQL6.5-2000, DB2, HTML, > > > > DHTML, > > > > > Javascript, > > > > > > COM, WAP, WML, HDML... > > > > > > > > > > > > >From front-end interface design to back-end database systems, > > > > I > > > > > can service > > > > > > your needs effectively. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can be contacted via email, telephone or through my website. > > > > > For more > > > > > > information and detailed background and project information, > > > > > visit > > > > > > http://www.soulardesign.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks kindly, I look forward to discovering and servicing > > > > your > > > > > needs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Gregory > > > > > > engineer, (e)consultant, free |a|gent > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > 616-382-2118 > > > > > > http://www.soulardesign.com > > > > > > Kalamazoo, MI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------ > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe visit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf > > > > > _jobs or > > > > > > send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > > 'unsubscribe' in > > > > > > the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ____ > > > > > > Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with > > > > the > > > > > latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. > > > > > http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe visit > > > > > > > > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf > > > > > _jobs or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with > > > > > 'unsubscribe' in the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > ____ > > > > > Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the > > > > latest > > > > news in ColdFusion and related topics. > > > > http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---------- > > > > ---- > > > > > To Unsubscribe visit > > > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf > > > > _jobs or > > > > send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > 'unsubscribe' in > > > > the body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_jobs or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
