:) I think with as many people having the same trouble, either CF people are
getting really stupid ;) Orrrrrrr lol





Bill Wheatley
Director of Development
AEPS INC
www.aeps.com
Macromedia ColdFusion Alliance Consulting Partner
Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer
954-472-6684 X303
ICQ: 417645
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Jordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1


> Macromedia support charges are not unreasonable IMHO.  They are very
typical.
>
> If the support call is discovered to be a Macromedia bug, you are not
charged the fee.
>
> --
> Tom Jordahl
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:28 PM
> To: CF-Linux
> Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
>
>
> Jesse was passing a few things i've given him along to the appropriate
> people
>
> I who probably speaks for the rest find that 250 in SUPPORT charges is
> unjustified.
> And cant justify it with the powers that be either way.
> You pay for support when something happens  that is your fault  but all of
> us having tech issues that are all the same, not locking, not application?
>
> especially when the problem i had i've gone through everything, removed
> every app and it still dies i've reinstalled CF after clean wipes of /opt
> and tmp
> The time i did pay to use Support it was really not worth the money :)
>
> I've done everything sort of a complete reinstall oh RH. Just suprising
that
> this problem just started after the Parition filled to 100%
> and i've never seen where after that happens and you bring the partition
> back down from 100% the problem persists.
>
> Very unusual, i've applied all Hot Fixes and it worked before i'm just
ready
> to throw it out the window and burn it
>
>
>
> Bill Wheatley
> Director of Development
> AEPS INC
> www.aeps.com
> Macromedia ColdFusion Alliance Consulting Partner
> Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer
> 954-472-6684 X303
> ICQ: 417645
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Jordahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:57 PM
> Subject: RE: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
>
>
> > Have any of the people seeing instability problems escalated them
through
> Macromedia support?
> >
> > --
> > Tom Jordahl
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Monahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:00 PM
> > To: CF-Linux
> > Subject: RE: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> >
> >
> > Are you also having the same issues with restarts?
> >
> > I am on the phone w/ Dell right now.  The CDs that ship with the Dell
> > server are RH CDs, but I know that there are Dell modifications that get
> > installed - otherwise my RAID setup would probably not work right.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:48 PM
> > To: CF-Linux
> > Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> >
> >
> > Me too :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Director of Development
> > AEPS INC
> > www.aeps.com
> > Macromedia ColdFusion Alliance Consulting Partner
> > Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer
> > 954-472-6684 X303
> > ICQ: 417645
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matthew Monahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:43 PM
> > Subject: RE: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> >
> >
> > > So far today, I have 32 server restarts, and it seems to be dependent
> > on
> > > load. No restarts between 1:10 am and 7:50 am, but then increasing
> > > volume of restarts through the current time.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Leon Oosterwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:41 PM
> > > To: CF-Linux
> > > Subject: RE: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> > >
> > >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I'm running CF 5 on Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma) on Compaq
> > System
> > > Linux pinky.isdn.net 2.4.7-10smp #1 SMP Thu Sep 6 17:09:31 EDT 2001
> > i686
> > > unknown
> > >
> > > Connecting to a Postgres Database. Updated UnixODBC for transaction
> > > support
> > > with Portgres.
> > >
> > > Averaging about one restart a day. Applied most of the latest redhat
> > > updates
> > > that were relevant.
> > >
> > > We're using one CFX object that is a Java object.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Leon Oosterwijk
> > > ISDN-NET Inc.
> > > www.isdn.net
> > > +1 615-221-4200
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Matthew Monahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:36 AM
> > > > To: CF-Linux
> > > > Subject: RE: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a suggestion.  There seem to be at least a few of us
> > > > that are having trouble with ColdFusion restarts on Linux.
> > > > We have all been through the usual routine of locking down
> > > > variables and updating necessary libraries.
> > > >
> > > > It is very likely that we all have some similar configuration
> > > > issue that is causing these restarts.  If we compare setups,
> > > > maybe we can narrow the possibilities down and figure out
> > > > which part of the setup is causing the problem.
> > > >
> > > > If I have been following this right, then Xing, Dane, and
> > > > myself all run RH Linux, Apache, CF 5, and mySQL.  Let's get
> > > > specific with versions. Mine are:
> > > >
> > > > Linux server.adelphi.edu 2.4.3-6smp #1 SMP Wed May 16
> > > > 04:29:16 EDT 2001 i686 unknown Apache/1.3.19 (Unix)
> > > > (Red-Hat/Linux) ColdFusion Server 5, 0, 0, 0 Professional
> > > > mysql  Ver 11.13 Distrib 3.23.36, for redhat-linux-gnu (i386)
> > > >
> > > > I'm using the Merant mySQL driver for DB connections.
> > > >
> > > > Matthew
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Douglas McKenzie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:55 AM
> > > > To: CF-Linux
> > > > Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Xing,
> > > >
> > > > Are you saying that if CF on Linux is serving a million+
> > > > pages per day, it will crash and restart and theres nothing
> > > > you can do about it? Is it due to serving the pages or the db
> > > > requests?
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "xing li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:39 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jesse,
> > > > >
> > > > > The symptoms are exactly like the one described by Dane in
> > > > the thread
> > > > > below with the exception that my setup was with mysql and also
> > with
> > > > sql
> > > > > server (tried both setup and the error persisted).
> > > > >
> > > > > The other thing I want to add to Dane's description is that the
> > > > problems
> > > > > I have experienced will only expose itself when the traffic load
> > > > exceed
> > > > > beyond some point. So in intranet situations or small websites
> > where
> > > > you
> > > > > do not have any real traffic to speak of I do not think
> > > > this problem
> > > > > will show its ugly head which explain why a lot of the
> > > > companies that
> > > > > use CF doesn't know about it since they will never
> > > > experience it.  The
> > > > > CF was setup for a webserver with CF code all custom designed to
> > > > server
> > > > > over well over 1 million dynamic CF pages per day. Windows
> > > > version of
> > > > CF
> > > > > 5 was able to handle it, barely, but Linux version doesn't even
> > seem
> > > > to
> > > > > be in the same league.
> > > > >
> > > > > Every possible configuration with the CF settings have been
> > > > tried with
> > > > > no result to show for.
> > > > >
> > > > > Xing
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, at 06:41  PM, Jesse Noller wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Xing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What issues *were* you seeing? I know many, many companies
> > running
> > > > CF5
> > > > > > without issue. I actually count on Sig11s and cores to be "out
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > norm". However, these can be typically debugged.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -jesse noller
> > > > > > macromedia
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: xing li [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:26 PM
> > > > > >> To: CF-Linux
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I have personally given up CF on Linux because of the utter
> > > > > >> instability of CF under load with Linux and
> > Allaire/Macromedia's
> > > > > >> failure to address
> > > > > >> the Linux issues.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I can't exactly count on a software that core dumps without any
> > > > > >> errors thrown what so ever and with every "shared" memory
> > locked
> > > > > >> down hard. I
> > > > > >> have had this problem since the beginning of CF 5 release with
> > no
> > > > > >> solution found and patches to hope for.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Windows CF got issues but no where as severe as the ones with
> > > > Linux.
> > > > > >> Macromedia better ramp up the QA development cycle or they will
> > > > lose
> > > > > >> customers and we really cant wait for version 6.0.
> > > > Somebody need to
> > > > > >> get into Macromedia's head to launch 5.1.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Sorry if this seems more like a rant than a solution to
> > > > the problem
> > > > > >> but I can't take CF5 on Linux any further. At least throw a
> > > > > >> freaking error
> > > > > >> when you core dump! Heck, to have a RELEASE version core dump
> > in
> > > > any
> > > > > >> software as frequently as CF 5 for Linux is unbelievable.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Xing
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Tuesday, March 12, 2002, at 03:45  PM, Matthew Monahan
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Dane-
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have been having very similar problems.  Can you take a
> > > > > >> look at your
> > > > > >>> Apache access log and send over the http requests that match
> > the
> > > > cfm
> > > > > >>> pages causing restarts?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Matthew Monahan
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>> From: Dane Ensign [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:06 AM
> > > > > >>> To: CF-Linux
> > > > > >>> Subject: CF 5 Server error on RedHat 7.1
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> *** CF server 5 and linux, mysterious error. ***
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  Our server is dying about every 2 -3 request, and  completely
> > > > > >>> restarting.  Before everyone starts "lock this and that" read
> > > > > >>>  on.....
> > > > > >>>  CF 5 professional.
> > > > > >>>  Red hat 7.1
> > > > > >>>  PG and MySQL.
> > > > > >>>  SYMPTOMS:
> > > > > >>>  The error occurs in all applications on the
> > > > > >>>  server..... system wide.
> > > > > >>>  The error occurs in the CF administrator.
> > > > > >>>  There are no scheduled task on the machine.
> > > > > >>>  THe server is completely locked down on session and
> > > > > >>>  application variables as set in the CF administrator,
> > > > > >>>  with no site errors being thrown on account of lack of
> > > > > >>>  locks.) .... everything is locked.
> > > > > >>>  There seems to be no "order" to triggering or the
> > > > > >>>  error.
> > > > > >>>  CF administrator completely ignores "dont restart
> > > > > >>>  server on unresponsive request" directive. And
> > > > > >>>  restarts every time the error occurs.
> > > > > >>>  Apache is doing just fine, no errors, load tested and
> > > > > >>>  checks out great.
> > > > > >>>  We are pleading for one the MM engineers to pick up on
> > > > > >>>  this
> > > > > >>>  It seems that when one of the child threads dies(god
> > > > > >>>  knows why) its bringing down the parent too, resulting
> > > > > >>>  in app restarts.
> > > > > >>>  We have read everything here and on list archives on
> > > > > >>>  house of fusion, paying particular attention the
> > > > > >>>  comments by the posting (mm)Allaire engineer.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Here are the errors:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> there's nothingin in the mail queue. Here are some of
> > > > the  errors
> > > > > >>> from the  logs.
> > > > > >>>  They are:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  in the application log:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  "Error","7175","03/07/02","15:25:33",,"xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx,
> > > > Mozilla/4.0
> > > > > >>>  (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461), The
> > > > time  taken
> > > > > >>> to process  your request has exceeded the allowable limit of
> > 60
> > > > > >>> seconds.  Please notify
> > > > > >>>  the server administrator (using the mail link below) that
> > > > > >>>  this error has
> > > > > >>>  occurred. <P>Note: You can override the request time limit
> > > > > >> by adding a
> > > > > >>>  'RequestTimeout' parameter to the URL used to request the
> > > > > >> page (e.g.
> > > > > >>>  page.cfm?RequestTimeout=500).<P><P> <P><P>Date/Time:
> > > > Thu Mar  7
> > > > > >>> 15:25:33
> > > > > >>>  2002<BR>Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows
> > NT
> > > > 5.0;
> > > > > >>>  Q312461)<BR>Remote Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx<BR>Query String:
> > > > > >>> cfasdebugsessionid=SKT:localhost:35303<P>"
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  in the server.log:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  "Fatal","7175","03/05/02","22:52:34",,"Caught a fatal
> > > > signal (11)
> > > > -
> > > > > >>>  Aborting"  "Information","1024","03/05/02","22:52:35",,"The
> > > > > >>> ColdFusion  Application
> > > > > >>>  Server started.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  in the webserver.log:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  "Error",,"03/06/02","23:39:03",,"An error occurred while
> > > > > >> attempting to
> > > > > >>>  establish a connection to the server.<P> The most likely
> > > > > >> cause of this
> > > > > >>>  problem is that the server is not currently running.
> > > > > >> Verify that the
> > > > > >>>  server is running and restart it if necessary.  <P>Unix
> > > > > >> error number 2
> > > > > >>>  occurred: No such file or directory"
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>  We are in need of a solution fast
> > > > > >>>  **Thank you in advance for any help that you can offer**
> > > > > >>>
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