The only reason I'm not at more meetings is that I'm buried in work. My most
consistent participation in any technical/professional group is via email
list, for the aforementioned reason. I can't think of a flaw in how KC
Fusion is set up, but many of the presentations seem too advanced. Talk
about Java Beans, C+, VB, etc. goes right over my head. It's kind of a
bummer to be sitting there just looking polite/interested until the meeting
is over.
Oh, and there's no way I could make it to an afternoon meeting.
Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator
VantageMed Operations (Kansas City)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Cox, Billy
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [KCFusion] Meeting
Bryan,
I'm a lurker/occasional poster, and except for the Forta visit, I haven't
attended any of the meetings. There are two recognized values of meeting
with a professional group. One is for profession-specific enrichment. The
other is for networking.
Could it be that the CF Developers in this area have access to ample
resources already, and so they are not seeking out new resources (such as
attending KCFusion meetings)? I'm not sure that anyone can ever do 'too
much' networking, but people may not value the networking potential of the
KCFusion meetings enough to take an entire evening out of their schedule.
So that I don't offer critique without some constructive suggestion, here's
my thought. I would be more inclined to attend an afternoon meeting. I would
receive the double-benefit of being on 'company-time' and also be developing
my skills and networking with other professionals.
Generally speaking, organizations increase participation by lowering costs
and/or increasing benefits. I propose that KCFusion reduce what it would
'cost' me to attend by moving the meeting to an afternoon time slot.
Billy Cox
Sprint PCS
-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan LaPlante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:28 PM
To: [ KCFusion ]
Subject: [KCFusion] Meeting
I see that Ryan has been trying to get some response from the group about
what your interests are. I have been involved with this group for about a
year now and I have noticed that we are a very quiet group. I don't know if
that means that we are all CF guru's or if it means that the majority of our
day is spent dealing with other technologies that consume our time and
interests. I remember when I first started in IT my first language was Java.
I was about to jump off the nearest cliff for the lack of resources that
were available to me. After getting a handle on Internet technologies I
wanted to help others get through the experience of learning a new language.
There are about 10 core people that are always ready to help others in this
group and I bet they had a similar experience to mine when they were
starting out. It would be kind of nice if we could all respond to them when
they ask us if there is anything we would like to talk about. I am not
complaining about meeting attendance or the lack of speakers but in the
spirit of the way Ron Hornbaker started this group we should be free to talk
about any kind of technology that a CF developer is faced with.
Any one that wants to give a presentation or suggest a focus for a meeting
all you have to do is email one of the directors and we will give you any
help you need to find answers to your issues. If any of us would do that
then once a month there would be some idea of common issues that the
community have been faced with and thus a subject for the meeting. I don't
think that I can stand up once a month and entertain you, so the alternative
is to let the group know if there is anything that you need help with. Some
one mentioned that the group seems to be more responsive to the subject of
Java (integration with CF, JRun, how to write a JavaBean) and so on, if that
is what everyone is interested in then lets do it.
If I don't get at least 10 responses about covering some subject I will call
Ron Ramphal and tell him to let our meeting room go to some other group that
might need it.
Bryan LaPlante
816-347-8220
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.netwebapps.com
Web Development
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