It's an indication of interest beyond the 'local community', as for example when there is a book explaining a programming language. Unfortunately, our community's size mostly hasn't risen to 'book level' yet. So any new person who's interested just gets sucked into the primary community.

That said, there are a number of external references. For a minor example, a search for "Climate Forecast" at MMI finds quite a number of references, though no detailed discussions.

I'm wondering what the searchers looked for -- that could be the problem. A search for
  "climate and forecast" conventions
in Google revealed a lot of references, for example here's a (brief) citation in a book:
  http://tinyurl.com/5uy4s9
But I'm not sure 'citations' are the metric wikipedia wants to use.

Unfortunately, *using* a standard is different than *caring* about it. Safe to say the population that cares about the USB standards is significantly smaller than the population that uses them. Both both are much larger for USB than for CF!

John



On Oct 23, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Jon Blower wrote:

Hi Russ,

I don't understand why there is a desire for others to document CF.
Surely it's better to have a single authoritative source?  Do they
mean that they want evidence that others are writing about CF, in the
sense that they are using it?  One could argue that this entire list
is involved in documenting CF, not just the primary authors.

On the deletion page, this statement is patently false:
A web search reveals that few people care about this subject besides the ones developing it.

Lots of people care about CF, even if they don't know it, because
their tools would not interpret data correctly.  It can be
demonstrated that CF is in wide use (see Steve Hankin's GODAE poster
for instance).

Cheers, Jon

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Russ Rew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,

There is currently a Wikipedia discussion taking place on whether a CF
Metadata Conventions article is appropriate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/CF_Metadata_Conventions

One of the characteristics that Wikipedia strives for in all articles is
verifiable accuracy, which has led to the comment:

The proper question to be addressing here is whether there is
documentation of these conventions by someone other than their
original authors.

Does anyone know of such documentation? It would provide evidence of an
independent source for information about the CF conventions, and
ultimately the verifiability of information in the draft article being
built at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CF_Metadata_Conventions

--Russ
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