Dear Stephen,

On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:16 -0500, Stephen Griffies wrote:

> >
> > (1) There are no standard_names including "laplacian" yet - it would
> > seem to be the default (coeffs in m2/s). 
> >
> >   
> 
> I introduced the "laplacian" name to distinguish from the "biharmonic" 
> now included in my proposed list.  Are you suggesting to drop 
> "laplacian" and let that be the default, unless otherwise noted by a 
> "biharmonic" name?  Indeed, that is just what is done in my list for 
> vertical mixing (in fact, I know of no ocean model that employs a 
> biharmonic operator for vertical mixing).   In summary, I am not 
> strongly in favour one way or the other for the lateral, but initially 
> suggested the name "laplacian" to remain symmetric with the name 
> "biharmonic."  I can readily drop this for the lateral if that is 
> strongly favoured. 
> 

As long as they don't clash with existing names that don't have
laplacian in them, and as far as I can see they don't, I don't mind.  

> 
> > (2) There are lots of "ocean_vertical_..." diffusivities (see table);
> > perhaps you need to to preface yours as "ocean_lateral_..."  (I don't
> > know; I'm no expert.)
> >   
> 
> 
> Below again are the lateral SGS fields. For physical reasons, I do not 
> believe the added name "lateral" is needed, since there is already in 
> the proposed name a specification that encompasses more precisely what 
> the term "lateral" would otherwise provide.  For example, 
> "ocean_tracer_bolus_laplacian_diffusivity" would not be more clearly 
> stated as "ocean_tracer_bolus_lateral_laplacian_diffusivity", since 
> there is physically no corresponding 
> "ocean_tracer_bolus_vertical_laplacian_diffusivity"; the term "bolus" is 
> sufficient.  Likewise, "ocean_tracer_epineutral_biharmonic_diffusivity" 
> would not be better written as 
> "ocean_tracer_epineutral_lateral_biharmonic_diffusivity", since there is 
> no "ocean_tracer_epineutral_vertical_biharmonic_diffusivity"; the term 
> "epineutral" serves to fully specify the diffusivity. 
> 
> 
Fair enough.

Regards,
Ian.

> Best,
>  Stephen
> 
> 
> 
> LATERAL SUBGRID SCALE FIELDS
> ocean_tracer_bolus_laplacian_diffusivity                              m2/s
> ocean_tracer_bolus_biharmonic_diffusivity                             m2/s
> ocean_tracer_epineutral_laplacian_diffusivity                         m2/s
> ocean_tracer_epineutral_biharmonic_diffusivity                        m2/s
> ocean_tracer_xy_laplacian_diffusivity                                 m2/s
> ocean_tracer_xy_biharmonic_diffusivity                                m4/s
> tendency_of_ocean_eddy_kinetic_energy_content_due_to_bolus_transport  W/m2
> ocean_momentum_xy_laplacian_diffusivity                               
> m2/s 
> ocean_momentum_xy_biharmonic_diffusivity                              m4/s
> ocean_kinetic_energy_dissipation_per_unit_area_due_to_xy_friction     W/m2
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