On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:02 PM, John Caron wrote:
You are invited to send input to this email group, ideally as concisely as possible

Well, each bullet is concise, anyway.  CF is a lot of things.

If you just want to see what the recommended priorities are, skip to sections 5 and 6.

1. CF standard names are:
A- a reasonably concise mediation between user needs for meaningful terms, and interoperability requirements for consistent terms B- a steadily growing and improving repository of concepts and categories from the environmental science community C- a mechanism for deriving consistent understanding of scientific concepts (which then is captured in the names, often) D- increasingly a mechanism to reach understanding of engineering and operation concepts E- the only reasonably decent controlled list of parameter names (community-run using open, visible processes, well-managed technically, thoughtfully administered, and moderately wide and deep in their coverage) F- inclusive of a large number of categories that can be used to classify the concepts

2. CF standard name creation processes are:
A- wonderfully well-thought-out, meaning they work pretty well to achieve the complex goals they target B- effectively open, transparent, and accessible, even to new participants (except for learning curve)
 C- executed with the necessary attention to detail
 D- reasonably well documented
 E- as short as they can be given the goals and community scale

The following are observations, not criticisms; in many cases these are good or necessary things. (In other cases they are not fixable even if that is desirable.)

3. CF standard names are not (starred items are recommended in section 5): A- semantically perfect in their construction (different words can mean the same thing) B - syntactically perfect in their construction (one can't always parse meaning out of the name's construction) C- representative of everything you might want to know about a parameter
 D* covering a particularly large percentage of the needed concepts
 E* covering a significant percentage of the possible concepts
F- modularized into all the possible components necessary to distinguish one term from another
 G* particularly graceful at dealing with engineering terms
 H* independent of the content/metadata specification which they target
I* crystal clear about the relationship between the standard names and other elements of the CF specification J* free of bias (in coverage, and sometimes in meaning) due to their communities of origin K* resolvable via URIs (except possibly through the BODC vocab server?)
 L* accessible as ontology terms (e.g, for mapping by other systems)
M* described by an ontology (to establish the relationship among the standard names)

4. CF standard name creation processes are not (starred items are recomended in section 6):
 A* particularly fast (at the community stage)
B* particularly easy (to understand the system and come up with the name in the first place) C* able to handle the large number of standard names we could inject into the system manually D* anywhere near able to handle the larger number of standard names that could be generated automatically or systematically E* crystal clear about what kinds of things are, and are not, welcome or useful as standard names
 F- an attempt to develop a comprehensive system for naming concepts
G- until now, addressing the priorities of items in III and IV -- good show!

The priorities for CF are very much a matter of choosing which things CF wants to be. The answers below represent my ideal scenario for CF, given what I think the oceanographic community needs and where CF is now. Most important priorities come first in each list. If I don't list something from lists 3 and 4, that means it isn't a significant problem in my mind.

5. CF standard names should be addressing/focusing on solutions to:
A- 3K and 3L (URIs, ontology terms) -- this is happening by necessity via other services, but CF needs to buy in B- 3D and 3E (increased coverage) -- make it possible to cover more terms more easily (like 3G, engineering terms, if CF wants to)
 C-  3J (decreasing bias) -- but this is already happening
D- 3H and 3I (decouple names from spec) -- make CF standard names usable in all content standards, not just CF (possible?) E- 3M (relate terms in ontology) -- this is a nicety for the semantic web, but not critical in the short term for CF users

6. CF standard name processes should be addressing/focusing on solutions to: A- 4B and 4E (easier, clearer for users) -- make the user experience a welcoming one B- 4C, if not also 4D; implies 4A also (faster) -- somehow find a way to accept more names more quickly with less effort

John


On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:02 PM, John Caron wrote:

The CF Conventions committee is looking to clarify the issues surrounding CF standard names and the process for creating them. There are a number of proposals and discussions for changing or augmenting standard names, and not yet much consensus on what direction to take.

We'd like to come up with a clear statement of what standard names are (or should be), and what are the problems and issues that we should be focusing on next.

You are invited to send input to this email group, ideally as concisely as possible. You are welcome to add your ideas of possible solutions, but it would be helpful to keep those separate for now.

The CF Conventions committee will attempt to capture some kind of consensus on what the issues are, which may help clarify what solutions are possible and what still needs to be explored.

Thanks!
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