> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomoo Ogura [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:49 PM
> To: Cameron-smith, Philip; Jonathan Gregory
> Cc: Jennifer Kay; Yoko Tsushima; [email protected]; Tomoo Ogura
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for new standard names
> 
> Dear Jonathan,
> 
>  > Yes, this makes sense to me (not being an expert - thanks for
> explaining).
>  > That seems a good reason for using your word sedimentation and
> adding
>  > _of_cloud_liquid_water as you suggested - so back to what we had
> agreed,
>  > with the useful distinction between sedimentation and precipitation
> of
>  > the basis of speed, thanks to Philip.
> 
>  Thanks for this.
> 
> Dear Philip,
> 
>  Let me explain a little more about the proposal.
>  I think the criteria for distinguishing the two regimes, fast-falling
> and
>  slow-falling processes, could be whether it is related to "rain" or
>  "cloud liquid water".
> 
>  Since "rain" and "cloud liquid water" have well-established
> definitions,
>  these criteria may work for all groups interested in CF, including
>  observations, GCMs, and regional modeling communities.
> 
>  If we follow the criteria, all the standard names related to
>  the tendencies of cloud liquid water will use "sedimentation",
>  so there should be no confusion with "precipitation".
> 
>  Best wishes,
> 
>  Tomoo
> 

Hi Tomoo,

This seems a reasonable distinction.  I assume that your proposal is that the 
existing std_names with 'precipitation' should now be defined to exclude 
sedimentation of clouds and aerosols.   I suspect that this is probably how 
people have already used them, so I would not object.  But there may be someone 
else who has a different opinion.   Either way, we should request that the 
description of those 'precipitation' names be amended to reflect the change.

For the record, what are the well-established definitions of "rain" and "cloud 
liquid water"?    Is this already part of CF?

Best wishes,

     Philip


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