Jay, Karl, fwiw:

If you need to get the actual date correct, at least throughout the post-gregorian period (i.e., after 1582-10-15), then you should set calendar to "proleptic_gregorian", and be careful to set your basetime after 1582-10-15, I think. I don't think you can count on dates being correct for times earlier than 1582-10-15, but maybe some software does this right.

The ESMF proleptic Gregorian calendar goes back to 4801 BC. From Earl Schwab,
the developer:

"[only going back to 4801 BC] is a limitation of the Fliegel/Van Flandern algorithm, mentioned
in the ref doc for ESMF_TimeSet():

http://www.earthsystemmodeling.org/esmf_releases/last_built/ESMF_refdoc/node6.html#SECTION060541500000000000000 http://www.earthsystemmodeling.org/esmf_releases/last_built/ESMF_refdoc/node8.html#Fli68

Also, in the comments of the source in ESMCI_Calendar.C:Calendar::convertToTime():

// The Fliegel algorithm implements the Gregorian calendar as continuously
//     proleptic from October 15, 1582 backward to March 1, -4800/-4900.
// Hence the algorithm does not take into account the Gregorian Reformation
//     (when the Gregorian calendar officially began) where 10 days were
// eliminated from the calendar in October 1582. Thursday, October 4, 1582 // was officially the last day of the Julian calendar; the following day,
//     Friday, was decreed to be October 15, 1582, the first day of the
//     Gregorian calendar.

These limits are tested in our nightly runs via ESMF_CalRangeUTest.F90()."

Not sure if there is another algorithm that can go back before 4801 for paleo people.
Cecelia


// The Fliegel algorithm implements the Gregorian calendar as continuously
//     proleptic from October 15, 1582 backward to March 1, -4800/-4900.
// Hence the algorithm does not take into account the Gregorian Reformation
//     (when the Gregorian calendar officially began) where 10 days were
// eliminated from the calendar in October 1582. Thursday, October 4, 1582 // was officially the last day of the Julian calendar; the following day,
//     Friday, was decreed to be October 15, 1582, the first day of the
//     Gregorian calendar.

regards,
Karl

On 3/10/11 3:55 PM, Karl Taylor wrote:
Could someone please advise Jay?
thanks,
Karl

-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        PALEO..
Date:   Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:37:51 -0800
From:   Jay Hnilo <[email protected]>
To:     Taylor, Karl Taylor <[email protected]>



Hi Karl,

If you happen to have some paleo data--how do you put it into
netcdf--knowing it goes from 10000 years ago to present day?

I'm asking mainly about the time.units, time.calendar, time coordinate values..

Thanks,

Jay


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