Hi,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bentley, Philip" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a 
CF-compliant netCDF file

> Hi Jon, 
> 
> > I've been following this thread with great interest.  For me 
> > it boils down to this question:
> > 
> >  - Is the datum always known by the data provider?
Tthe World Ocean Database ( http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/WOD09/pr_wod09.html ), 
which is creating by aggregating and standardizing datasets collected over a 
long period of time, has some datasets which go all the way back to the time of 
James Cook. Some of these datasets, I am certain, have datum which is not 
known.  But, I think the provider could still give a best guess for what the 
datum could have been with adequate qualification instead of leaving it to the 
user to select arbitrary datum.

Upendra


> 
> Almost certainly, but by a comparatively small number of individuals
> within an organisation I would guess. However - and here's the 
> blocker -
> probably not by many/enough of the people who have the (let's be 
> frank)unglamorous job of compiling metadata for large volumes of 
> spatial data.
> 
> > 
> > If the answer is "yes" then I see no reason to omit the datum 
> > (and plenty of reasons to include it).  If there *are* 
> > situations where the datum is genuinely unknown or undefined 
> > then we need to express this clearly too so users can beware.
> > 
> > (Previous posts mentioned GCMs as possible situations where 
> > the datum is unknown - is this really true?  Surely there is 
> > always a sphere with a known radius on which coordinates are based?)
> > 
> That would be my assumption also - that the raw facts are always 
> known.
> In my experience the problem tends to be organisational rather than
> technical. Few organisations seem to employ staff whose lapel badge
> reads 'Spatial Metadata Operative'. Which is, I realise, a pretty lame
> excuse. Anyhows, I'm drifting off topic.
> 
> Cheers,
> Phil
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