Paul,

The standard name grammar does not have any place for addition of words that aren't in the defined set (standard names plus specifiers plus modifiers). I have recently had to deal with a similar issue. Others may correct me, but I think the little CDL example below shows what you could do. Keep in mind, this example is not complete. I am leaving out a whole host of attributes, such as projection, etc.

 dimensions:
   CorrEasting = UNLIMITED;   // (0 currently)
 variables:
   float RawEasting(CorrEasting=0);
     :units = "meters";
     :long_name = "Raw easting";
     :standard_name = "projection_x_coordinate";
   float CorrEasting(CorrEasting=0);
     :units = "meters";
     :long_name = "Corrected easting";
     :standard_name = "projection_x_coordinate";
     :axis = "X";
   float Measurement(CorrEasting=0);
     :coordinates = "RawEasting";

Note that I labeled the corrected easting with the same name as the dimension. This makes the variable into a "coordinate variable", which has special status in CF. The RawEasting variable is considered an auxiliary coordinate variable, and is identified as such in the coordinates attribute on the measurement variable. This is, of course, assuming that the corrected easting is the one that you would prefer that people use for most purposes.

There is, in addition, a requirement to have additional auxiliary variables that contain the longitude and latitude of each point when the primary coordinate variables are projection coordinates. CF is currently strongly biased towards having geographic coordinate variables. There is an ongoing discussion about how to support projection coordinate systems.

Feel free to contact me directly if I can help further offline.

Grace and peace,

Jim

On 9/8/2011 9:29 AM, Kennedy, Paul wrote:

Hi Jim,
Many thanks for getting back to me. I would have thought I would need to differentiate using different variable names

We will certainly set the correct standardname attribute.

Our current systems maintain both unprocessed and final data in the same file so we can rapidly compare and contrast. This has worked well in the past, so I prefer to keep hold of it for a while.

My thoughts were to use the standard names where possible for our 'final' data such that other systems can recognise the variables we would expect them to consume.

With this in mind, for our raw easting, would it more appropriate to use the term

"projection_x_coordinate_raw".

Or

"raw_projection_x_coordinate".

?

I could not figure if the descriptor should come first or last

BTW. I really like the metadata fields.

Geeting NetCDF into an OGC standard will see it proliferate.

Well done


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To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu Sep 08 20:39:27 2011
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Mapping from internal data conventions to CF conventions

Paul,

As far as the standard_name attribute for the variable CorrEasting, I think it is perfectly OK to use the same standard name as used for the variable Easting. You would differentiate them in the names of the variables, and in the free-text long_name attributes for each. The standard_name attribute is used to indicate the "class" of measurement stored in the variable, without much regard for the method of acquisition or types of processing applied. Since both variables contain measurements of easting, they both are properly labeled with a standard_name of "projection_x_coordinate".

Grace and peace,

Jim

On 9/8/2011 1:20 AM, Kennedy, Paul wrote:

        hi,

I am attempting to map from our existing conventions to CF conventions. Most of the mappings appear straight forward, but I do have a few curly ones. I read the "Guidelines for Construction of CF Standard Names" page, but it did not help my situation.



As you can see, I may 'Easting" to CF convention:'projection_x_coordinate', where easting represents raw UTC coordinates.



However, I also have 'CorrEasting' which represents the corrested (despiked, smoothed) easting for the same observation. We need to maintain both the raw and the corrected value (for QC purposes) Any ideas how I should map my data? If you can give me a clue, I am sure my other tables will follow the same pattern.



        One example data table is as follows...





        Field Name <http://osdwiki.fugro/?title=Starfix_POS_file_format>

Description / Data Type <http://osdwiki.fugro/?title=Starfix_POS_file_format>

CFConvention <http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name-table/18/cf-standard-name-table.html> <http://osdwiki.fugro/?title=Starfix_POS_file_format>


        Time;

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_TIME_GPS)

The time stamp of the observation. This is the time of applicability, NOT the time of reception. The units are seconds since 6-1-1980 (Gps Origin).

                time


        FFID;

                double;

This is typically the same as the shotpoint, but it can also be used as a 'Fiducial Fix Identifier' a unique fix number)

                FFID (no convention available)


        ShotPoint

                double

        This is the shotpoint, also know as the fix number

                Shotpoint (no convention available)


        Easting

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_EASTING)

The RAW unprocessed, projected eastings (in metres) in the projected coordinate system for that project.

                projection_x_coordinate


        Northing

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_NORTHING)

The RAW unprocessed, projected northings (in metres) in the projected coordinate system for that project.

                projection_y_coordinate


        Height

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_HEIGHT)

        The orthometric height in metres.

                height


        Kp

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_KP)

The kilometre post in metres (also called chainage, 'M' in other packages).

                Kp (no convention available)


        Offset

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_OFFSET)

The distance cross course, in metres, where -ve is to the left of the route, and positive is to the right of the route.

                Offset (no convention available)


        LineName

                char[64]

The route linename. This can be a pipe route, cable route or survey line.

                LineName


        ProcFlags

                long purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_PROCFLAGS)

                ProcFlags


        CorrEasting

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_EASTING)

The FULLY processed, projected eastings (in metres) in the projected coordinate system for that project.



        CorrNorthing

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_NORTHING)

The FULLY processed, projected northings (in metres) in the projected coordinate system for that project.



        CorrHeight

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_HEIGHT)

The FULLY processed, orthometric height (in metres) in the projected coordinate system for that project.



        Speed

                double purpose(MSG_PURPOSE_SPEED)

The vessel speed in metres per second. this is typically based on the raw positions, not the 'Corr' positions.










        Paul Kennedy

        Technical Development Manager

        Fugro Survey Pty Ltd

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