I am cross posting with regard to ticket #89 
(https://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/89)

This comment:
https://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/89#comment:4
presents a choice, which I encourage interested parties to state their view on, 
either on the ticket or by e-mail to myself and Jonathan.

> Replying to jonathan:
> > Dear Mark
> > 
> > It could be argued that this relaxation does involve a change to the 
> > interpretation of existing data, because where archived data says "x" it 
> > might currently be assumed that this means it is definitely not "eastward". 
> > Once this change was made, you could not assume that any more. 
> 
> You are correct, this reinterpretation is a consequence of the proposal.  
> 
> > I think we may be trying to be too subtle with the interpretation. I would 
> > argue that this is a straightforward choice. Either we decide that in 
> > existing (and new) standard names "x" is allowed even when "x" happens to 
> > coincide with "east" (what you propose), or we decide that this is not 
> > allowed (in which case I can't see how to provide what you need except by 
> > using new standard names). 
> 
> I agree with the way you state the 'simple choice'.  I think that this ticket 
> indicates the implications of allowing 'x' when 'x' happens to be 'east'.  I 
> might describe it as 'just subtle enough' but that's just my perspective.
> 
> > I also fear that few people apart from you and me are listening to this 
> > conversation, since trac tickets aren't widely distributed, as we know. 
> > Therefore, although it's where you started, I suggest that you might try 
> > again on the email list, presenting the question as a simple Yes/No choice, 
> > and inviting subscribers to the list to reply "Yes" or "No"!
> 
> Hopefully Jeff's change will mean that this posting will also appear on the 
> mailing list.  Therefore I ask that people with an interest express their 
> 'yes' or 'no', either on this ticket, or via email to mark.hedley at 
> metoffice.gov.uk and j.m.gregory at reading.ac.uk to this proposal.
> 
> If the consensus is not to accept this interpretation then my next step will 
> be to request a large number of new standard names which extensively overlap 
> with the current standard names, which I feel causes many more issues than 
> the reinterpretation proposed here.
> 
> for example: 
> 
>   xward_wind: "x" indicates a vector component along the grid x-axis, where 
> this may or may not be true longitude, positive with increasing x. Wind is 
> defined as a two-dimensional (horizontal) air velocity vector, with no 
> vertical component. (Vertical motion in the atmosphere has the standard name 
> upward_air_velocity.)

many thanks
mark
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