Dear Tuomas,

Thank you for working on the definitions. I take your point that 'turbulent' 
does not necessarily mean 'subgrid scale'. I think your suggested text is 
basically fine but it would  be helpful if we could also include an upper limit 
on what you mean by 'small'.

Best wishes,
Alison

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NCAS/British Atmospheric Data Centre    Email: [email protected]
STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory     
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Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Tuomas Karna
> Sent: 15 March 2013 16:50
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for ocean model turbulent
> quantities
> 
> Dear Allison,
> 
> Thank you for your comments. I'd propose some further changes to the
> definitions:
> 
> 1. "specific_turbulent_kinetic_energy_of_sea_water (m2 s-2)"
> As turbulent kinetic energy is not necessary equivalent to model's
> subgrid scale eddy kinetic energy, I'd formulate the definition as:
> ' "Specific" means per unit mass. "Turbulent kinetic energy" is the
> kinetic energy of small scale turbulent fluctuations of the flow. '
> 
> 2. "specific_turbulent_kinetic_energy_dissipation_in_sea_water (W kg-1)"
> The definition would then become:
> ' "Specific" means per unit mass. "Turbulent kinetic energy" is the
> kinetic energy of small scale turbulent fluctuations of the flow. The
> dissipation of kinetic energy arises in ocean models as a result of the
> viscosity of sea water.'
> 
> 3. "turbulent_mixing_length_of_sea_water (m)"
> '  "Turbulent mixing length" is used in models to describe the macro
> length scale of energy-containing eddies in a turbulent flow. '
> 
> If these definitions seems too vague, I can try to elaborate them futher.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Tuomas Karna
> 
> Post-Doctoral Fellow
> Center for Coastal Margin Observation and Prediction (CMOP)
> Oregon Health and Science University
> [email protected]
> 

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