Dear Steve and Nan I would like to point out, again, that CF has been like this for 13 years. While that doesn't mean it is perfect, it probably means it's not too bad.
> >It's alarming to think people can use an unmodified standard name like > >sea_water_temperature for a variable that is in fact a standard deviation > >or an error. I'm very curious to know if this is a widespread use of cell > >methods, because it seems so ... wrong. > > My personal viewpoint: There's a strong case to be made that the > string assigned to the standard_name attribute, whatever it is, > should accurately describe what the variable is. If we do not > follow this principle we know that mistakes and frustrations for end > users will be the result. It will be cold comfort to blame the > users and software developers. Expanding the standard_name modifier > list may provide a solution that does not cause proliferation in the > length of the standard names list. I disagree. The standard name is just one component of CF metadata. Its purpose is to identify the geophysical quantity. Temperature is the same geophysical quantity, regardless of whether the data is mean temperature, maximum temperature, median temperature, 99-percentile of temperature, standard deviation of temperature or variance of temperature. I guess it's because standard names are so useful that there is a temptation to think that all the essential metadata should be contained in the standard name! However, I do not think one should expect all the metadata to be contained within a single string. If this is really a problem, then we should make sure some solution like that proposed by Cecelia in trac ticket 94 https://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/trac/ticket/94 is added to CF, and encourage people to include it in their data. This would be convenient for data discovery, as well as for the purpose that motivated it (exchanging data between submodels). Please add your support and comments to that ticket. "Standard deviation of temperature" is too vague. It often causes confusion, even in publications, about whether the author means a temporal variation or a spatial variation, for example. That's why it's in cell_methods, principally, where it is associated with a dimension, and hence made precise. I do agree there is some conceptual similarity between cell_methods and standard_name modifiers, though they're not the same. If they were to be unified, I think it would be better to do that by moving the modifiers into the cell_methods somehow. When modifiers were first introduced, some people objected to them because they confused the purpose of the standard_name attribute. Best wishes Jonathan _______________________________________________ CF-metadata mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata
