Dear John,

Excellent. Thanks for your consideration. I'm cc'ing the "cf-metadata" address so that our dialogue gets posted to the archive.

-Jonathan

On 5/13/2013 5:25 PM, John Graybeal wrote:
Great by me, thanks!

On May 13, 2013, at 13:53, Jonathan Wrotny <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Dear John,

I am taking over this thread from Randy Horne (with his permission).

Thanks for your reply regarding this new proposed standard name. I concur that I should not have replaced the 'X' with the phrase from the standard name, and also that the sentence defining the surface is not relevant since the word 'surface' is not directly part of the standard name.

Also, I will reword the sentence attempting to discuss the vertical column. The motivation for this sentence is to highlight that the vertical column may not extend from the surface to the TOA (and does not in the case of the GOES-R product that is motivating this standard name proposal), but instead may extend over some specified layer (for which the coordinate variable "air_pressure" will be used). I agree that the wording of this sentence may be a little garbled. Does the following definition improve upon the original?

"lwe" means liquid water equivalent. The construction lwe_thickness_of_X means the vertical extent of a layer of liquid water if all the X in a vertical column was condensed. A coordinate variable of air_pressure can be specified to define the levels of the vertical column.

Sincerely,

Jonathan

*From*: "John Graybeal" <[email protected]>
*Sent*: Friday, May 10, 2013 2:07 PM
*To*: [email protected]
*Subject*: Re: [CF-metadata] new standard_name: lwe_thickness_of_water_vapor

Two definition observations, I think both related to the 'lwe_' contribution.

"The construction lwe_thickness_of_X means the vertical extent of a layer of liquid water if all the atmospheric water vapor." Where did the X get replaced by something in that phrase? Perhaps it should read "if all the X"?

The definition goes on about something not particularly relevant for this standard name, the vertical column, and more confusingly "the surface referes to the lower boundary of the atmosphere". In this particular case, I presume the vertical column verbiage is associated with the 'lwe_' part, but sometimes it doesn't fit/should be replaced. For example: "In this case the vertical column is unspecified, and so extends from the bottom to top of the atmosphere." could replace everything after "The vertical column."

John


On May 10, 2013, at 10:56, "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Folks:
Would like to propose the following:
standard_name:

lwe_thickness_of_water_vapor


definition:

"lwe" means liquid water equivalent. The construction lwe_thickness_of_X means the vertical extent of a layer of liquid water if all the atmospheric water vapor in a vertical column was condensed. The vertical column may extend from the surface to the top of the atmosphere, or between levels of the atmosphere. The surface refers to the lower boundary of the atmosphere.A coordinate variable of air_pressure can be specified to specify levels of the atmosphere.


units:

m

very respectfully,


randy

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