Dear Jonathan:   Thanks for taking the time to reply.   In the case of 
GOES-R, the ground system will not know what type of fire it is.  Because 
our products generally coverage very large areas, it will be common for 
many fires to be detected and included in instances of our products.  The 
imager aboard the spacacraft has several IR channels, and, basically, the 
ground processing software looks for "hot" pixels that is on land and where 
it is not cloudy.   What about rain, smoke, dust, and volcanic ash 
area_types ? 

  

Also, in you reply below, you state that area_type could be used as a 
dimension of data variables.  I could not find anything in the CF standard 
that explains this (maybe you are referring to the "where typevar" 
discussion in CF standard para. 7.3.3.). 

  

very respectfully, 

  

randy

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 From: "Jonathan Gregory" <j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:11 PM
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: [CF-metadata] a conceptual question about "area_types"

Dear Randy

Yes, I would say that fire could be an area type, except that it would be 
nice
to be more specific about it. Does it mean wildfire? Expanding the area 
type
is not a slippery slope; the table was created in order to avoid expanding 
the
number of standard names because of the introduction of more types, as well 
as
so area type could be used as a dimension of data variables.

Cheers

Jonathan

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> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:19:05 -0400
> From: Randy Horne <rho...@excaliburlabs.com>
> To: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" <cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>
> Subject: [CF-metadata] a conceptual question about "area_types"
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> 
> Folks:
> 
> The current area_type table includes "cloud", "snow", and "vegetation". 
These are environmental conditions whose existence and location vary over 
time.
> 
> In GOES-R, we are generating rainfall, fire, aerosol (smoke and dust), 
and volcanic ash product files. These product files contain statistics 
(e.g. min, max, mean, std dev) that are associated with only those regions 
on the earth where these environmental conditions are found. For the 
variables containing these statistics, we are using cell_methods. A "where 
fire" clause would make sense (if "fire" were in the area_type table). It 
would seem a "where fire" clause is conceptually the same as "where 
cloud".
> 
> If they are the conceptually same, there would be value to expanding the 
area_type table. However, I can see a slippery slope forming as the 
area_type table could grow large.
> 
> If they are not conceptually the same, what am I missing ?
> 
> very respectfully,
> 
> randy
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