Dear Jonathan and Randy,

You are  correct that we already have the standard name 
effective_radius_of_cloud_liquid_water_particle_at_liquid_water_cloud_top which 
is obviously aimed at liquid particles. We do, however, also have the existing 
name effective_radius_of_cloud_condensed_water_particles_at_cloud_top defined 
as: 'The effective radius of a size distribution of particles, such as 
aerosols, cloud droplets or ice crystals, is the area weighted mean radius of 
particle size. It is calculated as the ratio of the third to the second moment 
of the particle size distribution. "cloud_top" refers to the top of the highest 
cloud. "condensed_water" means liquid and ice.'  I think this is probably the 
quantity you need, rather than adding another standard name.

Best wishes,
Alison

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From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Wrotny
Sent: 15 December 2013 21:56
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CF-metadata] Proposed new standard name: 
effective_radius_of_cloud_particle_at_cloud_top

Dear CF board,

Back in May, a colleague of mine, Randy Horne, submitted a new proposed name 
for the effective radius of a cloud particle at the top of a cloud.  Our 
proposed standard name was "effective_radius_of_cloud_particle_at_cloud_top".  
We did not hear back from any CF posters at the time in regards to this 
proposal, and are hoping to re-start this proposal now.

The motivation for this new standard name is a data product on the future 
GOES-R geostationary platform.  This product is the effective radius for a 
cloud particle at the top of a cloud.  The GOES-R product will not distinguish 
between water and ice particles, however.  Currently, the CF database has a 
similar standard name but for liquid particles only 
(effective_radius_of_cloud_liquid_water_particle_at_liquid_water_cloud_top).  
This standard name does not suffice for the GOES-R data product, hence, the 
proposal for a slightly more general standard name which would cover both water 
and ice particles at the cloud top.  Here is our current proposal:

Standard Name:

effective_radius_of_cloud_particle_at_cloud_top

Definition:

The effective radius of a size distribution of particles, such as aerosols, 
cloud droplets or ice crystals, is the area weighted mean radius of particle 
size. It is calculated as the ratio of the third to the second moment of the 
particle size distribution. cloud_top refers to the top of the highest cloud 
and cloud_particle refers to either a liquid water droplet or ice crystal. 

Canonical Units:

m

Thanks for your consideration of this proposal.  All comments are welcome.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Wrotny
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