Hi Jonathan, Karl, Jim and all,

Many thanks for your responses!

Honestly, I am a bit lost because of cell_methods. I think I need first to read more attentively about it to understand your explanations... :) If presence of "climatology_bounds" depends on cell_methods modifications, then it seems me complicated logically:
we have "climatology_bounds" even if it is not a climatology case...

Best regards,
Natalia


On 04/24/2014 07:20 PM, Jim Biard wrote:
Natalie,

The example 7.13 would not work according to the CF standard if the bounds were merely cell bounds. The cell_methods syntax "method within interval" and "method over interval" are defined to apply only when there is a climatology bounds. You are probably right that this isn't, strictly speaking, a climatology case (I'm not a climatologist, so I can't speak to that); but to achieve the result within the conventions, you must use the climatology formalism.

Grace and peace,

Jim

On 04/25/2014 12:11 AM, Karl Taylor wrote:
Dear Natalia, Jonathan, and all,

I don't think "maximum (interval: 1 day)" would be explicit enough for the variable "precipitation_amount". It wouldn't distinguish between precipitation_amounts accumulated over each 24 hour period or some shorter interval (say, from 8 to 11 each morning). With the use of a climatological axis and bounds, I think the cell_methods would be "time: sum within days time: maximum over days".

Hope others will confirm.

Best regards,
Karl


On 04/24/2014 06:43 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
Dear Natalia

I think example 7.13 is acceptable. It uses climatological bounds because there
are two statistical operations. First, daily sums are accumulated. Second, the
maximum is computed.

However, I agree this is debatable and probably not ideal. It would be better
seen as an example of section 7.3.2, with a single statistical operation of
"maximum" and a cell_methods which recorded "(interval: 1 day)". Do you agree?

Best wishes

Jonathan





On 4/24/14, 9:22 AM, Natalia Tatarinova wrote:
Hello,

I have a question concerning the "Climatological statistics".

According to the CF ("Climatological statistics" section in the CF document), there are 2 ways to derive climatological statistics:

1. "Climatological statistics may be derived from corresponding portions of the annual cycle in a set of years" (corresponding examples: 7.8, 7.9, 7.11 and 7.12).

2. "Climatological statistics may also be derived from corresponding portions of a range of days, for instance the average temperature for each hour of the average day in April 1997" (corresponding examples: 7.10).

There is also the example 7.13 (Monthly-maximum daily precipitation totals) which doesn't correspond to these ways. For me, to find max daily precipitation for each month is an usual statistics, but not climatological. So, I think that the "climatology_bounds" variable should be renamed to "time_bnds". For example, in CMIP5 project monthly statistics derived from daily variables have no "climatology_bounds" but "time_bnds" variable.

Could you enlighten me on this point, please?

Best regards,
Natalia

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