Hi Jonathan,

For manually-read rain gauges the advice to the observer is simply to record 
the measurement to one decimal place. For the thresholds of interest this seems 
to me to be equivalent to saying the values have been rounded. Therefore 0.2 mm 
does mean 0.15-0.25 mm, 1.0 mm means 0.95-1.05 mm, and 10 mm means 9.95-10.05 
mm.

In contrast automated sites use a tipping bucket gauge (in the UK at least) 
which constrains the observations to be multiples of the bucket size. I believe 
that for all the data we use this is a nominal 0.2 mm i.e. precipitation totals 
can be 0.0 mm, 0.2 mm, 0.4 mm etc, and values such as 0.1 mm, 0.3 mm, 0.5 mm 
cannot be reported. Given that all we know is that the bucket has tipped (i.e. 
has become full and caused the mechanism to tip and empty the bucket) this 
implies that an observation of 0.2 mm actually means 0.2 <= true value < 0.4 
(because the bucket has not yet tipped a second time).

For our gridded climate datasets (rainfall total, days of rain etc) we use data 
from both types of gauge without correction or adjustment. I think we can be 
fairly confident that uncertainties in the interpolation process will be quite 
a bit larger than either the observation uncertainty or the differences between 
the two observation types i.e. these types of subtlety are probably 'in the 
noise' and to be honest not something I'd given much thought to.

In conclusion I'm slightly reluctant to specify a threshold that tries to 
reflect how the observations have been gathered, partly because this is not the 
same for all sites and partly because it could change in the future (e.g. if we 
were to adopt a different type of rain gauge). Personally I'd prefer to 
describe what we do to the data once it has been collected, which in the case 
of the 'days of rain' variables is to test if the value is greater than or 
equal to a threshold.

Thoughts?

Regards,

Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Gregory
Sent: 01 September 2014 17:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CF-metadata] Days of rain

Dear Dan

> We have several variables that we describe loosely as 'days of rain'. 
> Strictly speaking they are a count (e.g. for a calendar month) of the number 
> of days when the 24-hour precipitation total was greater than or equal to a 
> threshold. We currently generate grids for three thresholds - 0.2mm, 1.0mm 
> and 10.0mm. My intention is to use the following existing standard name:
> 
> number_of_days_with_lwe_thickness_of_precipitation_amount_above_threshold
> 
> My only slight problem is that the definition implies 'greater than' whereas 
> our variables are 'greater than or equal to' the threshold. Assuming the 
> observations have a precision of 0.1 mm ...

I think it depends on how the data have been treated. Are they rounded to the
nearest 0.1 mm? If so, a recorded value of 0.0 mm means an actual value in the
range 0.00-0.05 mm, 0.1 mm means 0.05-0.15 mm, 0.2 mm means 0.15-0.25 mm, etc.,
and your threshold of 0.2 mm in recorded precipitation is actually a threshold
of 0.15 mm. That is therefore what I would suggest as the coordinate value for
the threshold.

Best wishes

Jonathan
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