Dear Maarten,

Indeed, these names had accidentally been left marked as "New" proposals in the 
editor I use to maintain the standard name table (this is why they were 
displayed with blue title bars). I have now marked them as "under discussion", 
as you say.

I am currently reviewing a number of remote sensing related standard name 
proposals in preparation for the next standard name table update.  I have 
almost completed a review of about 30 names related to the GOES-R programme, 
which I will shortly be posting to the list. I will also check back on the 
discussion of your proposals - I recall there was a discussion about Udunits - 
it would be good to review these at the same time.

Best wishes,
Alison

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Centre for Environmental Data Analysis         Email: [email protected]
STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory     
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Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Maarten Sneep
> Sent: 29 June 2015 10:32
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for standard names: radiance and
> irradiance as measured from satellite
> 
> On 26/11/14 17:52, [email protected] wrote:
> > Dear Maarten,
> >
> > Thank you for your proposals. I have now created entries for them in the
> standard
> > names editor at
> >
> http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1?status=active&namefilter=&propos
> erfilter=Maarten&descfilter=&unitfilter=&yearfilter=&filter+and+display=Fi
> lter,
> > so they certainly will not be lost. (At the moment they appear with blue
> headings
> > to indicate that they are new proposals - I wanted to demonstrate this
> feature of
> > the editor - but I will shortly change their status to "Under Discussion"). 
> > By
> > proposing your names to the list they are already "in the process" so now
> it is a
> > case of responding to any further comments as they arise. Names are
> formally
> > accepted when consensus has been reached on the terms themselves, the
> definitions
> > and units. Once accepted, they are automatically included in the next
> update of
> > the standard name table.
> >
> > I have given my detailed comments on the individual proposals and your
> additional
> > questions below.
> >
> > 1. toa_incoming_photon_solar_irradiance_per_unit_wavelength
> >
> > I agree with Jonathan's comment that "solar" is not really necessary and
> you have
> > indicated that it is OK to remove it, so we would then have
> > toa_incoming_photon_irradiance_per_unit_wavelength.
> >
> > Taking your own definition and adapting the wording slightly for
> consistency with
> > existing "toa_incoming" and "irradiance" names I arrived at the following:
> >
> > "toa" means top of atmosphere. The TOA incoming photon irradiance is
> the photon
> > flux from the sun on a surface perpendicular to the incoming radiation i.e.
> the
> > "downwelling"  flux. In accordance with common usage in geophysical
> disciplines,
> > "flux" implies per unit area, called "flux density" in physics. A coordinate
> > variable for radiation wavelength should be given the standard name
> > radiation_wavelength.  A photon flux is specified in terms of numbers of
> photons
> > expressed in moles.
> >
> > Canonical unit: mol m-2 m-1 s-1
> >
> > As it stands, this looks fine and could probably be accepted for inclusion 
> > in
> the
> > standard name table straight away. However, you included some notes
> about the
> > coordinate variable and unit which need some further consideration. I'll
> address
> > the units issues first, as these are the easiest to answer!
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just noticed that the status of this proposal is still "Active (not on list 
> or
> rejected)". Shouldn't ehy have been marked "Under discussion" by now?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Maarten Sneep
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