Dear Michael,

Thank you for your comments on this name. I take your point that 
dvorak_tropical_cyclone_number looks like it could be intended as a cyclone 
identifier, so I agree that it is better to leave the name as 
dvorak_tropical_number. I think the expanded definition is helpful to a 
non-expert like myself in understanding, at least in general terms, what the 
name represents and the reference is important for those who need to understand 
in detail.

dvorak_tropical_number (canonical units: 1)
'The Advanced Dvorak Technique (ADT) is used to derive a set of Dvorak Tropical 
numbers using an objective pattern recognition algorithm to determine the 
intensity of a tropical cyclone by matching observed brightness temperature 
patterns, maximum sustained winds and minimum sea level pressure to a set of 
pre-defined tropical cyclone structures. Dvorak Tropical numbers range from 1.0 
to 8.0, increasing with storm intensity. Reference: Olander, T. L., & Velden, 
C. S., The Advanced Dvorak Technique: Continued Development of an Objective 
Scheme to Estimate Tropical Cyclone Intensity Using Geostationary Infrared 
Satellite Imagery (2007).  American Meterorological Society Weather and 
Forecasting, 22, 287-298.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
included in the update on July 8.

Best wishes,
Alison

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From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Carlomusto, Michael
Sent: 03 July 2015 22:44
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposed Standard Name: dvorak_tropical_number

Thread: "Proposed Standard Name: dvorak_tropical_number"
(http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2014/057272.html)

Current status: under discussion
dvorak_tropical_number (canonical units: 1) ' "dvorak_tropical_number" means 
the tropical number derived using the Advanced Dvorak Technique based on 
satellite observations, which has been empirically related to maximum sustained 
1-minute wind speed and mean sea level atmospheric pressure.'

Alison Pamment wrote on 2 July 2015:

No comments were received on this name following the original proposal. Please 
can you confirm whether my interpretation of 6a and 6b is correct (see 6a). I 
suggest that this name should be dvorak_tropical_cyclone_number for consistency 
of wording with 6a and to make clear that it relates to cyclones. The units are 
fine.

On the related dvorak_tropical_cyclone_intensity_number proposal (aka 6a), 
Alison wrote:

Having done some reading around the subject, it appears that the Current 
Intensity (CI) number relates cyclone intensity to maximum wind speed in 
particular, rather than mean sea level pressure (MSLP). The relationship 
between intensity and MSLP seems to be summarized in the Tropical (T) number 
which I think is the subject of proposal 6b. Please can you confirm whether 
this is correct? The definitions of 6a and 6b should make clear the difference 
between the two names and a reference to the Advanced Dvorak Technique should 
be added.

Reply by Mike Carlomusto 3 July 2015:

Alison, you are correct. The calculation of the Dvorak T number (proposed 
standard name "dvorak_tropical_number") uses maximum wind speeds and mean sea 
level pressure.  The GOES-R Hurricane Intensity Estimate product will contain 
variables "raw_T_number", "adjusted_raw_T_number" and "final_T_number" which 
will all use the same standard name (dvorak_tropical_number).  

I disagree that the proposed standard name should change from 
dvorak_tropical_number to dvorak_tropical_cyclone_number.  The latter looks 
more like a cyclone identifier, which it is not.

I would like to submit the following revised proposal:

dvorak_tropical_number (canonical units: 1) ' Definition:
The Advanced Dvorak Technique (ADT) is used to derive a set of Dvorak Tropical 
numbers using an objective pattern recognition algorithm to determine the 
intensity of a tropical cyclone by matching observed brightness temperature 
patterns, maximum sustained winds and minimum sea level pressure to a set of 
pre-defined tropical cyclone structures. Dvorak Tropical numbers range from 1.0 
to 8.0, increasing with storm intensity. See Olander, T. L., & Velden, C. S., 
The Advanced Dvorak Technique: Continued Development of an Objective Scheme to 
Estimate Tropical Cyclone Intensity Using Geostationary Infrared Satellite 
Imagery (2007).  American Meterorological Society Weather and Forecasting, 22, 
287-298. '


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