Hi,

the definition that Alison is suggesting reads fine to me. Happy to see
this moving forward!

Thanks, Matthias



On Tue, 2015-10-13 at 11:17 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> Dear Matthias,
> 
> I've had a quick look back at this discussion. The name and units are fine:
> acoustic_signal_roundtrip_travel_time_in_sea_water (s).
> 
> I see that there was some discussion of additional metadata that should be 
> provided in addition to the standard name itself, but no definition text was 
> really decided. It seems to me that the name itself is quite generic, 
> although in your particular application it is being used for roundtrip times 
> between the sea floor and the sea surface. Therefore, I am suggesting the 
> following definition, based on the mailing list discussion:
> 'The quantity with standard name 
> acoustic_signal_roundtrip_travel_time_in_sea_water is the time taken for an 
> acoustic signal to propagate from the emitting instrument to a reflecting 
> surface and back again to the instrument. In the case of an instrument based 
> on the sea floor and measuring the roundtrip time to the sea surface, the 
> data are commonly used as a measure of ocean heat content.' 
> 
> Does that sound OK? If we can agree a definition then the name can be 
> accepted and included in the next standard name table update.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Alison
> 
> ------
> Alison Pamment                                 Tel: +44 1235 778065
> Centre for Environmental Data Analysis         Email: 
> [email protected]
> STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory     
> R25, 2.22
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> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> > Of Matthias Lankhorst
> > Sent: 12 October 2015 19:44
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [CF-metadata] looking to finalize standard name
> > acoustic_signal_roundtrip_travel_time_in_sea_water
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > in 2013, I started a brief discussion about a new standard name for
> > inverted echo sounder data, see e-mail thread below.
> > 
> > The proposed name would be:
> > acoustic_signal_roundtrip_travel_time_in_sea_water
> > 
> > It is duly listed on the CF website about standard names that are
> > pending. Any chance this could be approved now? I do not recall any
> > objections, but I am wondering why this is taking so long. Do I need to
> > do anything else to get this approved speedily?
> > 
> > Matthias
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [CF-metadata] standard_name for acoustic travel time from echo sounder
> > Lowry, Roy K. rkl at bodc.ac.uk
> > Thu May 30 07:45:54 MDT 2013
> > 
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> > 
> > ___________________________________________________________________
> > _____
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > Of Matthias's suggestions I have a strong preference for a slight
> > extension of roundtrip_acoustic_travel_time_in_sea_water, namely
> > acoustic_signal_roundtrip_travel_time_in_sea_water.  'two-way' is a
> > possible alternative to 'roundtrip' but I think the former carries
> > unfortunate seismic semantic implications, so 'roundtrip' is better for
> > IES.  Including 'in_sea_water' is also essential to clearly distinguish
> > it from seismic data.
> > 
> > Cheers, Roy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > From: CF-metadata [cf-metadata-bounces at cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of
> > Matthias Lankhorst [mlankhorst at ucsd.edu]
> > Sent: 30 May 2013 13:16
> > To: cf-metadata at cgd.ucar.edu
> > Subject: [CF-metadata] standard_name for acoustic travel time from echo
> > sounder
> > 
> > Dear CF,
> > 
> > I have oceanographic data from IES instruments (inverted echo sounder)
> > that I
> > would like to publish via OceanSITES in a CF-compliant form. The data in
> > question are acoustic travel times from the echo sounding device. This
> > means
> > the time it took for the acoustic signal to run from the instrument (which
> > sits on the seafloor) to the sea surface and back to the instrument. These
> > data are commonly used as a proxy for ocean heat content.
> > 
> > I don't think there is a suitable CF standard_name out there, and ask for 
> > your
> > help in finding/creating one. Which of the following sound good?
> > 
> > acoustic_travel_time
> > vertical_acoustic_travel_time
> > roundtrip_acoustic_travel_time_in_sea_water
> > echo_sounder_acoustic_travel_time
> > 
> > ...I could think of a couple more combinations using the words above, but
> > would like to hear other people's opinions.
> > 
> > The canonical units would obviously be seconds.
> > 
> > I assume the data would need some additional description to denote the
> > vertical extent of the measurement, such as cell_bounds and
> > cell_methods='Z:sum'.
> > 
> > Any comments?
> > 
> > Kind regards, Matthias
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > _______________________________________
> > 
> >  Dr. Matthias Lankhorst
> >  Scripps Institution of Oceanography
> >  9500 Gilman Drive, Mail Code 0230
> >  La Jolla, CA 92093-0230
> >  USA
> > 
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> > 
> > 
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 USA

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