Dear Alison

In existing names we generally use "atmosphere" to indicate a property of the
atmosphere as a whole (or a large portion of it) and "in_air" to indicate a
local property within the atmosphere. We don't use both phrases at once. These
quantities can be regarded as means of local properties, I think, so just
in_air would be sufficient. If no vertical coordinate is specified, it should
apply to the entire atmosphere, but to make that clear a cell_method could be
added to record that it's a vertical mean.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:39:38 +0000
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> Subject: [CF-metadata] New standard names for ESA GHG CCI quantities
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I have been asked to re-propose two standard names that were originally 
> proposed by Maximilian Reuter in 2014 but which did not receive any comments 
> at the time: 
> http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf-metadata/2014/057373.html.
> 
> I have rephrased the original proposal to make the names more CF like and 
> have added some standard definition text, so the names are now proposed as 
> follows:
> atmosphere_mole_fraction_of_methane_in_dry_air (canonical units: 1)
> 'Mole fraction is used in the construction "mole_fraction_of_X_in_Y", where X 
> is a material constituent of Y. A chemical species denoted by X may be 
> described by a single term such as "nitrogen" or a phrase such as 
> "nox_expressed_as_nitrogen". The "atmosphere mole fraction" of a quantity 
> refers to the column average from the surface to the top of the atmosphere. 
> Methane is a member of the group of hydrocarbons known as alkanes. There are 
> standard names for the alkane group as well as for some of the individual 
> species. The chemical formula for methane is CH4.'
> 
> atmosphere_mole_fraction_of_carbon_dioxide_in_dry_air (canonical units: 1)
> 'Mole fraction is used in the construction "mole_fraction_of_X_in_Y", where X 
> is a material constituent of Y. A chemical species denoted by X may be 
> described by a single term such as "nitrogen" or a phrase such as 
> "nox_expressed_as_nitrogen". The "atmosphere mole fraction" of a quantity 
> refers to the column average from the surface to the top of the atmosphere. 
> The chemical formula for carbon dioxide is CO2.'
> 
> These names reflect the original proposal, and generally follow  the syntax 
> of existing names such as mole_fraction_of_carbon_dioxide_in_air. I have 
> prepended these names with the word "atmosphere" as a way of indicating a 
> column amount, similar to existing atmosphere_mass_content names.
> 
> We don't currently have any "dry_air" names in CF. When this topic last came 
> up on the mailing list (as far back as 2008 under the thread entitled "mixing 
> ratio") it was concluded that the current "in_air" names don't tie the 
> definition down to either dry or ambient air. The reason for this 
> (deliberate) vagueness is that numerically the quantities in dry or moist air 
> are not very different except in the case of water vapour itself where we 
> define humidity_mixing_ratio to mean " ratio of the mass of water vapor to 
> the mass of dry air". The gist of the 2008 conversation was that if we ever 
> needed to be very precise about making the distinction between ambient air 
> and dry air then we would be able to introduce appropriate names at a later 
> stage, but there wasn't a pressing need at the time. An offline conversation 
> I had more recently with Jonathan Gregory and Martin Schultz went along 
> similar lines, basically saying that we wouldn't change any existing names 
> where the deliberate impre
 ci
>  sion isn't important, but reiterating that we could introduce new names if 
> there are cases where it does matter, specifying dry or ambient.
> 
> Please could Maximilan, Veronica or another member of the CCI team answer the 
> question about whether there is a real need to specify "dry_air" in the case 
> of these names, or can we get away with being a bit more vague? If vagueness 
> is OK, then the names would simplify to 
> atmosphere_mole_fraction_of_methane_in_dry_air  and 
> atmosphere_mole_fraction_of_carbon_dioxide. Also, do others agree with my 
> using "atmosphere" here to indicate the column average? All comments are 
> welcome.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Alison
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