Martin,

Cell methods drive me crazy on a regular basis. They are notional in many cases, and I often find it hard to figure out the best way to express complex operations. An example of particular input and output measurement quantities for each case would go a long way towards helping me understand. But why should I let my ignorance stop me from replying? I'll go ahead and let you know what these cell methods are indicating to me off the top of my head. My cold reading might be useful, and I expect that if I'm totally blowing it someone else will bring wisdom to bear. (For general reference, CF sections 7.3.1 and 7.3.3 describe these sorts of cell methods.)

I read the first cell_methods as saying that for a given cell you are calculating the average over time of some quantity in multiple locations with the cell where sea ice is present, then calculating the average of those time averages over the area of the cell covered by sea ice (the time average of the area covered by sea ice?). The second 'where sea_ice' feels redundant unless the input quantities are intensive (point measurements having units of X) and the output quantity has units of X/area.

I read the second cell_methods as saying that you are calculating an average over time of some quantity at multiple locations within a cell where and when convective cloud is present, then taking the minimum of those time averages. This cell method feels like it may be right, but it raises a further question. There is no 'convective_cloud' entry in the table for names <http://cfconventions.org/Data/area-type-table/current/build/area-type-table.html>associated with the standard name area_type. Are you planning on having a typevar variable as described in section 7.3.3 or planning to ask for an addition to the area_type table?

I hope this helps even a little.

Grace and peace,

Jim

On 3/15/16 6:39 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Hello,

We have two similar but distinct temporal averaging use cases in the CMIP6 data 
request and I'd be grateful to some advise about CF encoding.

(1) Grid cells have a temporally varying sea-ice fraction, and a mean is wanted 
over the sea-ice area.

Is this a correct cell_methods formulation:
"time: mean where sea_ice area: mean where sea_ice"?

(2) Grid cells which sometimes have convective cloud, and a mean is wanted over 
the times when there is a cloud in the cell. The variable to be averaged is, in 
this case, the minimum over the cell of the convective cloud base.

Is this the correct cell_methods:
"time: mean where convective_cloud area: minimum"?

In the first case the first case "mean where sea_ice" refers to the portion of grid cells 
have sea_ice, in the 2nd "mean where convective_cloud" would refer to whole cells ... is 
this OK?


cheers,
Martin

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