Dear Roy Once this pattern is established, it is unlikely that there would be any objection to proposals for new X_anomaly (or anomaly_in_X) standard names. When new names are proposed with existing patterns applied to existing vocab, it's hardly ever a problem, but standard names are never added to the table automatically or assumed to exist. They have to be proposed, to prevent the possibility of something nonsensical being added.
If we were really flooded with anomaly names, then it would be better to consider putting the "anomaly" indicator somewhere else, requiring a change to the convention to be devised. That is possible, but it has not threatened to happen yet, and we don't do things unless we need to! Best wishes Jonathan ----- Forwarded message from Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <[email protected]> ----- > Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:10:34 -0700 > From: Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <[email protected]> > To: Jonathan Gregory <[email protected]> > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Standard attributes for anomaly > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) > > Hi Jonathan: > > It strikes me that anomalies are pretty common, and the in the long-run it > would be easy to have “anomaly” added to the approved transformations, so > that one can just take a standard name and append anomaly somewhere to have a > new valid standard name without having to seek approval. > > Perhaps I am missing something, but if I were to propose anything it would be > what I state above. > > -Roy > > > On Mar 30, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Jonathan Gregory <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Dear Roy > > > > There are a handful of standard names for anomalies of the form X_anomaly, > > where X is some other standard name. You could propose a new one for this. > > It could be sea_surface_foundation_temperature_anomaly, like the existing > > ones, > > but if that's too hard to understand, > > anomaly_in_sea_surface_foundation_temperature > > might be clearer. > > > > "anomaly" could be handled by some other new CF convention if it was needed > > for hundreds of quantities. This is of course possible, but so far there > > have > > been few requests for anomaly names, so it's easier and sufficient to create > > new standard names for them, I think. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Jonathan > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal > > <[email protected]> ----- > > > >> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:16:52 -0700 > >> From: Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <[email protected]> > >> To: CF metadata <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [CF-metadata] Standard attributes for anomaly > >> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) > >> > >> Hi All: > >> > >> We have been given files related o sea surface temperature. The observed > >> value has the attributes: > >> > >> analysed_sst:long_name = "analysed sea surface temperature" ; > >> analysed_sst:standard_name = > >> "sea_surface_foundation_temperature" ; > >> > >> > >> and the climatology has the attributes: > >> > >> mean_sst:long_name = "climatological mean sea surface > >> temperature" ; > >> mean_sst:standard_name = "sea_surface_foundation_temperature" ; > >> > >> What would be the proper attributes for the anomaly calculated from these? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -Roy > >> > >> ********************** > >> "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. > >> Government or NOAA." > >> ********************** > >> Roy Mendelssohn > >> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst > >> NOAA/NMFS > >> Environmental Research Division > >> Southwest Fisheries Science Center > >> ***Note new address and phone*** > >> 110 Shaffer Road > >> Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > >> Phone: (831)-420-3666 > >> Fax: (831) 420-3980 > >> e-mail: [email protected] www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ > >> > >> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." > >> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" > >> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK > >> Jr. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> CF-metadata mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > _______________________________________________ > > CF-metadata mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata > > ********************** > "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. > Government or NOAA." > ********************** > Roy Mendelssohn > Supervisory Operations Research Analyst > NOAA/NMFS > Environmental Research Division > Southwest Fisheries Science Center > ***Note new address and phone*** > 110 Shaffer Road > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > Phone: (831)-420-3666 > Fax: (831) 420-3980 > e-mail: [email protected] www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ > > "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." > "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" > "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr. > ----- End forwarded message ----- _______________________________________________ CF-metadata mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata
