Dear Alison, That's great. Thank you very much for your reply.
Regards, Alejandro > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 21 April 2016 15:27 > To: Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Fwd: Re: Proposal for standard names: liquid and > ice > cloud fractions > > Dear Alejandro, > > Apologies for the delay in replying to your question. I can confirm that > these names, > units and definitions are all accepted for inclusion in the standard name > table (see > http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1?status=accepted&namefilter=&proposerfilter= > Alejandro&descfilter=&unitfilter=&yearfilter=&commentfilter=&filter+and+display=Fil > ter) for up to date status. > > The names will be added in the next update of the table, scheduled for May > 17th. > > Best wishes, > Alison > > ------ > Alison Pamment Tel: +44 > 1235 778065 > Centre for Environmental Data Analysis Email: > [email protected] > STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory > R25, 2.22 > Harwell Campus, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro > > Sent: 09 March 2016 11:16 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Fwd: Re: Proposal for standard names: liquid and > > ice cloud fractions > > > > Dear Alison and CF community, > > > > Please could you let me know what's the status of these names? Are they > > ready to go into the next update of the standard names table? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Alejandro > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of > > > Jonathan Gregory > > > Sent: 25 February 2015 20:15 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [CF-metadata] Fwd: Re: Proposal for standard names: liquid and > > ice cloud > > > fractions > > > > > > Dear Alejandro > > > > > > That looks good to me. Thanks. Yes, I agree, you might see "ice" used for > > > other frozen substances than water (including "dry ice") but I don't > > > believe > > > we use it in that more general sense in CF standard names. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > ----- Forwarded message from "Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro" > > > <[email protected]> ----- > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:14:21 +0000 > > > > From: "Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro" <[email protected]> > > > > To: "Gregory, Jonathan" <[email protected]>, > > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Fwd: Re: Proposal for standard names: liquid > > and > > > > ice cloud fractions > > > > > > > > Dear Jonathan, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your comment. When I proposed ice_water_cloud I was trying > > to keep > > > the same format for both phases, but I ice_cloud seems fine to me (I've > > seen 'ice' > > > used for other compounds, but perhaps it's not correct). > > > > With this change, the names would be: > > > > > > > > - liquid_water_cloud_area_fraction > > > > - ice_cloud_area_fraction > > > > - liquid_water_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > - ice_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Alejandro > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of > > > > > Jonathan Gregory > > > > > Sent: 24 February 2015 06:47 > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: [CF-metadata] Fwd: Re: Proposal for standard names: liquid > > and ice > > > cloud > > > > > fractions > > > > > > > > > > Dear Alejandro > > > > > > > > > > I think that liquid_water_cloud would be preferable to liquid_cloud, > > > > > on > > > > > grounds of consistency as you say, and also clarity. liquid_water is a > > phrase > > > > > used in many standard names to refer to cloud composition e.g. > > > > > atmosphere_mass_content_of_convective_cloud_liquid_water > > > > > to give just one example. What would ice_water_cloud mean? The > > phrase > > > > > ice_cloud is used in the existing standard_name > > > > > number_concentration_of_ice_crystals_in_air_at_ice_cloud_top > > > > > so I think ice_cloud would be OK to use if that's what you mean. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded message from "Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro" > > > > > <[email protected]> ----- > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:25:21 +0000 > > > > > > From: "Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro" > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: 'Martin Raspaud' <[email protected]>, "cf- > > > [email protected]" > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for standard names: liquid and > > ice cloud > > > > > > fractions > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Martin, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for pointing me to that thread, it was very useful. The > > standard names > > > I > > > > > am proposing are similar in concept to the existing > > > > > 'thickness_of_liquid_water_cloud', so I guess the proposed names > > make sense. > > > > > > I can think of two possible options: > > > > > > > > > > > > The one that I originally proposed: > > > > > > > > > > > > - liquid_cloud_area_fraction > > > > > > - ice_cloud_area_fraction > > > > > > - liquid_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > - ice_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > > > > > > > Or > > > > > > > > > > > > - liquid_water_cloud_area_fraction > > > > > > - ice_water _cloud_area_fraction > > > > > > - liquid_water _cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > - ice_water_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > > > > > > > The second set of names seems to be more consistent with existing > > names. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Alejandro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of > > > > > > > Martin Raspaud > > > > > > > Sent: 21 February 2015 21:24 > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for standard names: liquid and > > ice > > > cloud > > > > > > > fractions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alejandro, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure it's related, but there was a thread on cloud physical > > > > > > > properties a few year ago: > > > > > > > http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/pipermail/cf- > > metadata/2011/048566.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2015-02-20 17:59, Bodas-Salcedo, Alejandro wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to propose new standard names for liquid and ice > > cloud > > > > > > > > fractions (as far as I can see, they don't exist). I am not > > > > > > > > sure if > > > > > > > > they follow the spirit of the CF conventions because cloud phase > > is > > > > > > > > not a well defined concept. I would appreciate your comments on > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alejandro > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** liquid_cloud_area_fraction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "X_area_fraction" means the fraction of horizontal area occupied > > by > > > > > > > > X. "X_area" means the horizontal area occupied by X within the > > grid > > > > > > > > cell. Cloud area fraction is also called "cloud amount" and > > > > > > > > "cloud > > > > > > > > cover". The cloud area fraction is for the whole atmosphere > > column, > > > > > > > > as seen from the surface or the top of the atmosphere. The cloud > > > > > > > > area fraction in a layer of the atmosphere has the standard name > > > > > > > > cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Units: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** ice_cloud_area_fraction > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "X_area_fraction" means the fraction of horizontal area occupied > > by > > > > > > > > X. "X_area" means the horizontal area occupied by X within the > > grid > > > > > > > > cell. Cloud area fraction is also called "cloud amount" and > > > > > > > > "cloud > > > > > > > > cover". The cloud area fraction is for the whole atmosphere > > column, > > > > > > > > as seen from the surface or the top of the atmosphere. The cloud > > > > > > > > area fraction in a layer of the atmosphere has the standard name > > > > > > > > cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Units: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** liquid_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Layer" means any layer with upper and lower boundaries that > > have > > > > > > > > constant values in some vertical coordinate. There must be a > > > > > > > > vertical coordinate variable indicating the extent of the > > > > > > > > layer(s). > > > > > > > > If the layers are model layers, the vertical coordinate can be > > > > > > > > model_level_number, but it is recommended to specify a physical > > > > > > > > coordinate (in a scalar or auxiliary coordinate variable) as > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > "X_area_fraction" means the fraction of horizontal area occupied > > by > > > > > > > > X. "X_area" means the horizontal area occupied by X within the > > grid > > > > > > > > cell. Cloud area fraction is also called "cloud amount" and > > > > > > > > "cloud > > > > > > > > cover". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Units: 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** ice_cloud_area_fraction_in_atmosphere_layer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Layer" means any layer with upper and lower boundaries that > > have > > > > > > > > constant values in some vertical coordinate. There must be a > > > > > > > > vertical coordinate variable indicating the extent of the > > > > > > > > layer(s). > > > > > > > > If the layers are model layers, the vertical coordinate can be > > > > > > > > model_level_number, but it is recommended to specify a physical > > > > > > > > coordinate (in a scalar or auxiliary coordinate variable) as > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > "X_area_fraction" means the fraction of horizontal area occupied > > by > > > > > > > > X. "X_area" means the horizontal area occupied by X within the > > grid > > > > > > > > cell. 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