Dear Daniel

That seems fine to me, thanks. Others may have comments and Alison will no
doubt respond in due course.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:00:12 +0200
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [CF-metadata] Antwort: Proposal to introduce three new standard
>       names for nitrogen deposition
> 
> Dear Jonathan,
> 
> Thank you for the feedback. Then, the three new variable names should be:
> 
> tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_nitrogen_due_to_dry_deposition
> tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_nitrogen_due_to_wet_deposition
> tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_nitrogen_due_to_deposition
>  
> Best,
> Daniel
> 
> 
> ----------------------------
> Daniel Neumann
> Doktorand Chemietransportmodellierung
> PhD Student Chemistry Transport Modelling
> 
> Tel.: +49 (0) 41 52 / 87 - 2368
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> -----"CF-metadata" <[email protected]> schrieb: -----
> An: [email protected]
> Von: Jonathan Gregory 
> Gesendet von: "CF-metadata" 
> Datum: 10.08.2016 14:44
> Betreff: [CF-metadata] Proposal to introduce three new standard names for 
> nitrogen deposition
> 
> Dear Daniel
> 
> Thanks for your proposal. I'm not an expert on the chemical aspect but it
> make sense to me to have aggregated names for nitrogen. This would be the
> mass of nitrogen in all species, yes?
> 
> "Total" is not needed because CF standard names assume that everything is
> meant (as with nitrogen!) unless there is a qualification. In fact the phrase
> due_to_deposition is already in use.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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> > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:36:06 +0200
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [CF-metadata] Proposal to introduce three new standard names for
> >     nitrogen deposition
> > 
> > Dear CF-convention community,
> > 
> > I would like to propose three new standard names for nitrogen deposition.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
> > 
> > 
> > ## PROPOSED STANDARD NAMES ##
> > tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_nitrogen_due_to_dry_deposition
> > tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_nitrogen_due_to_wet_deposition
> > tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_nitrogen_due_to_total_deposition
> > 
> > 
> > ## REASON ##
> > The total nitrogen deposition into water bodies is an important parameter 
> > when Eutrophication of water bodies and nutrient contribution from rivers 
> > and the atmosphere are evaluated. This parameter is no primary model output 
> > parameter but it is derived from the deposition of all nitrogen compounds.
> > 
> > When providing nitrogen deposition data to ecosystem modelers it is 
> > reasonable to provide 'total nitrogen deposition' instead of 'nitrogen wet 
> > deposition' and 'nitrogen dry deposition' separately because algae do not 
> > care about the type of deposition.
> > 
> > Instead of providing "total nitrogen deposition" one could also provide wet 
> > and dry deposition of "ammonium + ammonia + noy + nitrate". However, this 
> > yields files that are eight times as height as necessary.
> > 
> > Therefore, standard names for nitrogen wet, dry and total deposition should 
> > be introduced.
> > 
> > It might be debatable to also introduce standard names for 'total oxidized 
> > nitrogen deposition' (noy + nitrate) or 'total reduced nitrogen deposition' 
> > (ammonia + ammonium).
> > 
> > 
> > ## DESCRIPTION ##
> > # DRY DEPOSITION #
> > "Content" indicates a quantity per unit area. The "atmosphere content" of a 
> > quantity refers to the vertical integral from the surface to the top of the 
> > atmosphere. For the content between specified levels in the atmosphere, 
> > standard names including "content_of_atmosphere_layer" are used. 
> > "tendency_of_X" means derivative of X with respect to time. The 
> > specification of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means 
> > that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together 
> > compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. "dry_deposition" 
> > is the sum of turbulent deposition and gravitational settling. "Nitrogen" 
> > summarizes all chemical species containing nitrogen atoms. Usually, 
> > particle bound and gaseous nitrogen compounds, such as atomic nitrogen (N), 
> > nitrogen monoxide (NO), nitrogen dioxide (NO2), dinitrogen pentoxide 
> > (N2O5), nitric acid (HNO3), nitrage (NO3-), peroxynitric acid (HNO4), 
> > ammoina (NH3), ammonium (NH4+), bromine nitrate (BrONO2), chlorine nitrate 
> > (ClONO2) and organic nitrates (most notably peroxyacetyl nitrate, sometimes 
> > referred to as PAN, (CH3COO2NO2)) are included. The list of individual 
> > species that are included in this quantity can vary between models. Where 
> > possible, the data variable should be accompanied by a complete description 
> > of the species represented, for example, by using a comment attribute.
> > 
> > 
> > # WET DEPOSITION #
> > "Content" indicates a quantity per unit area. The "atmosphere content" of a 
> > quantity refers to the vertical integral from the surface to the top of the 
> > atmosphere. For the content between specified levels in the atmosphere, 
> > standard names including "content_of_atmosphere_layer" are used. 
> > "tendency_of_X" means derivative of X with respect to time. The 
> > specification of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means 
> > that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together 
> > compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. "wet_deposition" 
> > means deposition by precipitation. "Nitrogen" summarizes all chemical 
> > species containing nitrogen atoms. Usually, particle bound and gaseous 
> > nitrogen compounds, such as atomic nitrogen (N), nitrogen monoxide (NO), 
> > nitrogen dioxide (NO2), dinitrogen pentoxide (N2O5), nitric acid (HNO3), 
> > nitrage (NO3-), peroxynitric acid (HNO4), ammoina (NH3), ammonium (NH4+), 
> > bromine nitrate (BrONO2), chlorine nitrate (ClONO2) and organic nitrates 
> > (most notably peroxyacetyl nitrate, sometimes referred to as PAN, 
> > (CH3COO2NO2)) are included. The list of individual species that are 
> > included in this quantity can vary between models. Where possible, the data 
> > variable should be accompanied by a complete description of the species 
> > represented, for example, by using a comment attribute.
> > 
> > 
> > # TOTAL DEPOSITION #
> > "Content" indicates a quantity per unit area. The "atmosphere content" of a 
> > quantity refers to the vertical integral from the surface to the top of the 
> > atmosphere. For the content between specified levels in the atmosphere, 
> > standard names including "content_of_atmosphere_layer" are used. 
> > "tendency_of_X" means derivative of X with respect to time. The 
> > specification of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means 
> > that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together 
> > compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. 
> > "total_deposition" is the sum of wet and dry deposition. "Nitrogen" 
> > summarizes all chemical species containing nitrogen atoms. Usually, 
> > particle bound and gaseous nitrogen compounds, such as atomic nitrogen (N), 
> > nitrogen monoxide (NO), nitrogen dioxide (NO2), dinitrogen pentoxide 
> > (N2O5), nitric acid (HNO3), nitrage (NO3-), peroxynitric acid (HNO4), 
> > ammoina (NH3), ammonium (NH4+), bromine nitrate (BrONO2), chlorine nitrate 
> > (ClONO2) and organic nitrates (most notably peroxyacetyl nitrate, sometimes 
> > referred to as PAN, (CH3COO2NO2)) are included. The list of individual 
> > species that are included in this quantity can vary between models. Where 
> > possible, the data variable should be accompanied by a complete description 
> > of the species represented, for example, by using a comment attribute.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------
> > Daniel Neumann
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> > PhD Student Chemistry Transport Modelling
> > 
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