Dear Martin and Jonathan,

Thank you both for commenting again on these names.

Martin wrote:
> (a) carbon_dioxide vs. 13C_dioxide: I agree that carbon_dioxide is correct 
> and clearer;

Thank you. This comment affects proposals 6 - 13 listed below.

6. CMIP6 short name netAtmosLandC13Flux.
Follows from existing name 
surface_net_downward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_carbon_due_to_all_land_processes
surface_net_downward_mass_flux_of_13C_dioxide_expressed_as_13C_due_to_all_land_processes
 (kg m-2 s-1) I.e. the mass of 13C in the downward CO2 flux.

We are now agreed on the following:
surface_net_downward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_13C_due_to_all_land_processes
 (kg m-2 s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Downward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed 
downward (negative upward). Net downward radiation is the difference between 
radiation from above (downwelling) and radiation from below (upwelling). In 
accordance with common usage in geophysical disciplines, "flux" implies per 
unit area, called "flux density" in physics. The phrase "expressed_as" is used 
in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B is a chemical constituent of A. 
It means that the quantity indicated by the standard name is calculated solely 
with respect to the B contained in A, neglecting all other chemical 
constituents of A. The chemical formula for carbon dioxide is CO2. "C" means 
the element carbon and "13C" is the stable isotope "carbon-13", having six 
protons and seven neutrons. The specification of a physical process by the 
phrase "due_to_" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a 
sum of terms wh
 ich together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. "All 
land processes" means plant and soil respiration, photosynthesis, animal 
grazing, crop harvesting, natural fires and anthropogenic land use change. 
"Anthropogenic land use change" means human changes to land, excluding forest 
regrowth. It includes fires ignited by humans for the purpose of land use 
change and the processes of eventual disposal and decomposition of wood 
products such as paper, cardboard, furniture and timber for construction.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

7. CMIP6 short name netAtmosLandC14Flux.
As (6), but for 14C
surface_net_downward_mass_flux_of_14C_dioxide_expressed_as_14C_due_to_all_land_processes
 (kg m-2 s-1)

We are now agreed on the following:
surface_net_downward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_14C_due_to_all_land_processes
 (kg m-2 s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Downward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed 
downward (negative upward). Net downward radiation is the difference between 
radiation from above (downwelling) and radiation from below (upwelling). In 
accordance with common usage in geophysical disciplines, "flux" implies per 
unit area, called "flux density" in physics. The phrase "expressed_as" is used 
in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B is a chemical constituent of A. 
It means that the quantity indicated by the standard name is calculated solely 
with respect to the B contained in A, neglecting all other chemical 
constituents of A. The chemical formula for carbon dioxide is CO2. "C" means 
the element carbon and "14C" is the radioactive isotope "carbon-14", having six 
protons and eight neutrons and used in radiocarbon dating. The specification of 
a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means that the quantity 
named i
 s a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity 
named by omitting the phrase. "All land processes" means plant and soil 
respiration, photosynthesis, animal grazing, crop harvesting, natural fires and 
anthropogenic land use change. "Anthropogenic land use change" means human 
changes to land, excluding forest regrowth. It includes fires ignited by humans 
for the purpose of land use change and the processes of eventual disposal and 
decomposition of wood products such as paper, cardboard, furniture and timber 
for construction.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

8. CMIP6 short name rac13. Mass Flux of 13C into Atmosphere due to Autotrophic 
(Plant) Respiration on Land.
As 
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_carbon_due_to_plant_respiration,
 but for 13C
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_13C_dioxide_expressed_as_13C_due_to_plant_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1)

We are now agreed on the following:
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_13C_due_to_plant_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Upward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed upward 
(negative downward). In accordance with common usage in geophysical 
disciplines, "flux" implies per unit area, called "flux density" in physics. 
The phrase "expressed_as" is used in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B 
is a chemical constituent of A. It means that the quantity indicated by the 
standard name is calculated solely with respect to the B contained in A, 
neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. The chemical formula for 
carbon dioxide is CO2. "C" means the element carbon and "13C" is the stable 
isotope "carbon-13", having six protons and seven neutrons. The specification 
of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means that the quantity 
named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general 
quantity named by omitting the phrase. Plant respiration is the sum of 
respiration by parts
  of plants both above and below the soil. It is assumed that all the respired 
carbon dioxide is emitted to the atmosphere. The term "plants" refers to the 
kingdom of plants in the modern classification which excludes fungi. Plants are 
autotrophs i.e. "producers" of biomass using carbon obtained from carbon 
dioxide.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

9. CMIP6 short name rac14. Mass Flux of 14C into Atmosphere due to Autotrophic 
(Plant) Respiration on Land
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_14C_dioxide_expressed_as_14C_due_to_plant_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1) 

We are now agreed on the following:
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_14C_due_to_plant_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Upward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed upward 
(negative downward). In accordance with common usage in geophysical 
disciplines, "flux" implies per unit area, called "flux density" in physics. 
The phrase "expressed_as" is used in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B 
is a chemical constituent of A. It means that the quantity indicated by the 
standard name is calculated solely with respect to the B contained in A, 
neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. The chemical formula for 
carbon dioxide is CO2. "C" means the element carbon and "14C" is the 
radioactive isotope "carbon-14", having six protons and eight neutrons and used 
in radiocarbon dating. The specification of a physical process by the phrase 
"due_to_" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of 
terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. 
Plant respiratio
 n is the sum of respiration by parts of plants both above and below the soil. 
It is assumed that all the respired carbon dioxide is emitted to the 
atmosphere. The term "plants" refers to the kingdom of plants in the modern 
classification which excludes fungi. Plants are autotrophs i.e. "producers" of 
biomass using carbon obtained from carbon dioxide.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

10. CMIP6 short name rhc13. Mass Flux of 13C into Atmosphere due to 
Heterotrophic Respiration on Land
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_13C_dioxide_expressed_as_13C_due_to_heterotrophic_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1)

We are now agreed on the following:
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_13C_due_to_heterotrophic_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Upward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed upward 
(negative downward). In accordance with common usage in geophysical 
disciplines, "flux" implies per unit area, called "flux density" in physics. 
The phrase "expressed_as" is used in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B 
is a chemical constituent of A. It means that the quantity indicated by the 
standard name is calculated solely with respect to the B contained in A, 
neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. The chemical formula for 
carbon dioxide is CO2. "C" means the element carbon and "13C" is the stable 
isotope "carbon-13", having six protons and seven neutrons. The specification 
of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means that the quantity 
named is a single term in a sum of terms which together compose the general 
quantity named by omitting the phrase. Heterotrophic respiration is respiration 
by heterotr
 ophs ("consumers"), which are organisms (including animals and decomposers) 
that consume other organisms or dead organic material, rather than synthesising 
organic material from inorganic precursors using energy from the environment 
(especially sunlight) as autotrophs ("producers") do. Heterotrophic respiration 
goes on within both the soil and litter pools.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

11. CMIP6 short name rhc14 : Mass Flux of 14C into Atmosphere due to 
Heterotrophic Respiration on Land
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_14C_dioxide_expressed_as_14C_due_to_heterotrophic_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1) 

We are now agreed on the following:
surface_upward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_14C_due_to_heterotrophic_respiration
 (kg m-2 s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Upward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed upward 
(negative downward). In accordance with common usage in geophysical 
disciplines, "flux" implies per unit area, called "flux density" in physics. 
The phrase "expressed_as" is used in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B 
is a chemical constituent of A. It means that the quantity indicated by the 
standard name is calculated solely with respect to the B contained in A, 
neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. The chemical formula for 
carbon dioxide is CO2. "C" means the element carbon and "14C" is the 
radioactive isotope "carbon-14", having six protons and eight neutrons and used 
in radiocarbon dating. The specification of a physical process by the phrase 
"due_to_" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of 
terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. 
Heterotrophic re
   spiration is respiration by heterotrophs ("consumers"), which are organisms 
(including animals and decomposers) that consume other organisms or dead 
organic material, rather than synthesising organic material from inorganic 
precursors using energy from the environment (especially sunlight) as 
autotrophs ("producers") do. Heterotrophic respiration goes on within both the 
soil and litter pools.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

Martin wrote:
> (b) surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen_compounds_expressed_as_nitrogen: I 
> selected the shorter form (surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen) for 
> consistency with terms such as "stem_mass_content_of_nitrogen", but I'm 
> happy to go with the longer form if it is considered necessary;

Okay, thank you. I think it is better to make this name match the other 
mass_flux ones. It seems we are agreed on 
18. CMIP6 short name fNgas : Total Nitrogen lost to the atmosphere (sum of NHx, 
NOx, N2O, N2)

surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen_compounds_expressed_as_nitrogen (kg m-2 
s-1)
'The surface called "surface" means the lower boundary of the atmosphere. 
"Upward" indicates a vector component which is positive when directed upward 
(negative downward). In accordance with common usage in geophysical 
disciplines, "flux" implies per unit area, called "flux density" in physics. 
The phrase "expressed_as" is used in the construction A_expressed_as_B, where B 
is a chemical constituent of A. It means that the quantity indicated by the 
standard name is calculated solely with respect to the B contained in A, 
neglecting all other chemical constituents of A. "Nitrogen compounds" 
summarizes all chemical species containing nitrogen atoms. The list of 
individual species that are included in this quantity can vary between models. 
Where possible, the data variable should be accompanied by a complete 
description of the species represented, for example, by using a comment 
attribute.'

This name is accepted for publication in the standard name table and will be 
added in the May update.

I think we have now agreed all the PMIP carbon and nitrogen names. Thank you!

Best wishes,
Alison

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NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data Archival    Email: [email protected]
STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory     
R25, 2.22
Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.

From: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP) 
Sent: 04 May 2018 15:34
To: Pamment, Alison (STFC,RAL,RALSP) <[email protected]>; 'Jonathan 
Gregory' <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) 
Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms

Dear Jonathan, Alison,

(a) carbon_dioxide vs. 13C_dioxide: I agree that carbon_dioxide is correct and 
clearer;

(b) surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen_compounds_expressed_as_nitrogen: I 
selected the shorter form (surface_upward_mass_flux_of_nitrogen) for 
consistency with terms such as "stem_mass_content_of_nitrogen", but I'm happy 
to go with the longer form if it is considered necessary;

(c) mass_content: thanks for spotting the error,

regards,
Martin
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From: CF-metadata on behalf of Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC 
Sent: 04 May 2018 14:27
To: 'Jonathan Gregory'; mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) 
Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms 
Dear Jonathan,

Well spotted! I think they should all say 'mass_content'. So we should have 
nitrogen_mass_content_of_forestry_and_agricultural_products (kg m-2) for 
nProduct
soil_mass_content_of_nitrogen (kg m-2) for nSoil.

I will update them in the standard names editor. They will still be published 
in the May update.

In the last update I made some aliases for carbon content names and I've just 
realised I missed one:
vegetation_carbon_content -> vegetation_mass_content_of_carbon (kg m-2).
I'll add this one into the May update.

Best wishes,
Alison
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Alison Pamment Tel: +44 1235 778065
NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data Archival Email: 
mailto:[email protected]
STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory 
R25, 2.22
Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.

-----Original Message-----
From: CF-metadata [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Gregory
Sent: 04 May 2018 13:39
To: mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] PMIP (including 1 or more that originated in C4MIP) 
Standard Names: Carbon and Nitrogen terms

Dear Alison

Yes, I agree with Martin's 13C and 14C names, which I queried. I also agree 
with you about nitrogen_compounds_expressed_as_nitrogen.

Reading through this list, I compared these:

> litter_mass_content_of_nitrogen (kg m-2) 
> nitrogen_content_of_forestry_and_agricultural_products (kg m-2) 
> (kg m-2) vegetation_mass_content_of_nitrogen (kg 
> m-2)

Why do two of them have mass_content and two just content? 

Best wishes

Jonathan
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