Dear Roy

OK, yes. I agree with that too! We should not provide standard names for there
is no use case yet. However, it's a good idea for foresee how this may be done,
so that a neat solution is readily available when the day comes.

Best wishes and thanks

Jonathan

On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 04:07:26PM +0000, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 16:07:26 +0000
> From: "Lowry, Roy K." <[email protected]>
> To: Jonathan Gregory <[email protected]>,
>  "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> 
> Dear Jonathan,
> 
> 
> This isn't a desire to mandate, it's just an attempt to prevent the creation 
> of six unnecessary Standard Names for sign conventions based on my knowledge 
> and researches of oceanographic data that don't exist. Should anybody come up 
> with a single example of the opposite sign convention in heave/sway/surge 
> from any other domain then the additional Standard Names will obviously  need 
> setting up. Anybody know of any??? It also goes without saying the 'normal' 
> conventions should leave the door open - for example 'upward heave' leaves 
> the door open for a future 'downward heave'.
> 
> 
> This follows another principle of CF Standard  Names which is that Standard 
> Names should only set up when there is a demonstrable use case and not just 
> in case a use case arises.
> 
> 
> Cheers, Roy.
> 
> 
> I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus 
> Fellowship using this e-mail address.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: CF-metadata <[email protected]> on behalf of Jonathan 
> Gregory <[email protected]>
> Sent: 05 September 2018 16:26
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> 
> Dear Jim and Roy
> 
> In general, we want CF to be able to describe the datasets that users want to
> describe, rather than mandating particular choices. Projects that use CF can 
> do
> that, of course, like CMIP6 does, which prescribes the standard_names of the
> quantities to be submitted.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Jim Biard <[email protected]> -----
> 
> > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:32:37 -0400
> > From: Jim Biard <[email protected]>
> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0)
> >        Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1
> >
> > Roy,
> >
> >
> > Good point! However (of course there has to be a 'but'!), are we OK
> > with forcing people to modify their data to match our convention?
> > Are there other situations where a standard name requires a certain
> > representation? The existing datasets that people have mentioned are
> > history, but they are also indicative of different sign conventions
> > out there "in the wild".
> >
> >
> > Grace and peace,
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > On 9/5/18 4:22 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote:
> > >
> > >Dear Jim,
> > >
> > >
> > >I think maybe you're doing more work than necessary. I see the
> > >work falling into three parts.
> > >
> > >
> > >1) Revision of the definitions of heave/heave rate that are part
> > >of a new Standard Name that has yet to be accepted.
> > >
> > >
> > >2) Creation of new Standard Names for Ken for sway/sway rate and
> > >surge/surge rate
> > >
> > >
> > >3) Upgrade to the definitions of the existing Standard Names for
> > >pitch, roll and yaw.
> > >
> > >
> > >How about hard-wiring direction conventions for cases (1) and (2)
> > >- heave positive up, surge positive forwards and sway to match
> > >Ken's data sets? As these are new Standard Names they cannot be
> > >out in the wild with the opposite direction convention.
> > >
> > >
> > >We would then need to deprecate the three existing Standard Names
> > >and replace them with six new ones.
> > >
> > >
> > >One other thought that is occupying my mind is whether the
> > >rate parameters are scalars or vectors? Any thoughts?
> > >
> > >
> > >Cheers, Roy.
> > >
> > >
> > >I have now retired but will continue to be active through an
> > >Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >*From:* CF-metadata <[email protected]> on behalf
> > >of Jim Biard <[email protected]>
> > >*Sent:* 04 September 2018 16:36
> > >*To:* [email protected]
> > >*Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> > >
> > >Jonathan,
> > >
> > >Two out of three of Nan's "most intuitive" rotations (pitch and
> > >yaw) are clockwise rather than anticlockwise if the unit vectors
> > >are X-fore, Y-port, and Z-up, which form a right-hand coordinate
> > >system. This is part of why you will see examples where the unit
> > >vectors are defined as X-fore, Y-starboard, and Z-down. This
> > >orientation of the unit vectors makes yaw to starboard, pitch up,
> > >and roll starboard down all anticlockwise rotations, but it points
> > >the Z unit vector down, which is, for most people, rather
> > >counter-intuitive. And this is why we are trying to define things
> > >in terms that don't require specification of unit vector
> > >directions.
> > >
> > >I'm going to try to continue down that path and avoid calling out
> > >clockwise/anticlockwise.
> > >
> > >Grace and peace,
> > >
> > >Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >On 9/4/18 10:18 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
> > >>Dear Jim
> > >>
> > >>>If that's the general consensus, then we can go that general
> > >>>direction. I'll prepare pairs of everything.
> > >>Thank you for your flexibility.
> > >>
> > >>>Regarding Nan's suggestions for names - I'm not a "ship person" so
> > >>>starboard and port are unfamiliar terms that I have to constantly
> > >>>check myself on. I dislike putting them in the names. I don't see
> > >>>them in regular use in the satellite domain. The same goes for bow
> > >>>as far as usage outside of the ship domain. Airplanes have noses.
> > >>>Satellites have ... I don't know if there is even a name, as there
> > >>>is no need for a leading edge. I'll struggle to find something, and
> > >>>then we can wrangle over it.
> > >>I agree with you - it would be better to have something generic and self-
> > >>explanatory, even if it diverges from familiar terminology.
> > >>
> > >>>I think the "most intuitive" way to represent the angles - and most
> > >>>consistent as well, in my view - is clockwise rotations around the
> > >>>unit vectors. This makes positive yaw to starboard, positive pitch
> > >>>nose up, and positive roll starboard up. But we are talking about
> > >>>having both signs represented in names, so I guess that is moot.
> > >>I agree with this too. For describing polygonal bounds, we say that the
> > >>vertices should be traversed anticlockwise as seen from above. That is a
> > >>positive direction of rotation around the vertical axis, since longitude-
> > >>latitude-upward is a right-handed coordinate system. I suppose this is the
> > >>yaw rotation - but is that the opposite sign from yours?
> > >>
> > >>Best wishes
> > >>
> > >>Jonathan
> > >>
> > >>>On 9/3/18 12:51 PM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
> > >>>>Dear Roy and Nan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I agree that if there are existing names whose sign convention is 
> > >>>>undefined
> > >>>>we can't retrospectively define it. I think those ones ought to be 
> > >>>>deprecated,
> > >>>>though, in favour of new ones with signs indicated.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Best wishes
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Jonathan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>----- Forwarded message from Nan Galbraith<[email protected]> 
> > >>>><mailto:[email protected]>  -----
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2018 11:57:33 -0400
> > >>>>>From: Nan Galbraith<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>To: "Lowry, Roy K."<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>Cc:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> > >>>>>User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H4 (5.0.23)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I second Roy's suggestion; existing names have undefined 
> > >>>>>directionality,
> > >>>>>and new names have explicit directions. This seems like the only way to
> > >>>>>move forward. If there's a difference of opinion on which direction
> > >>>>>should be in the new name, we can easily create a pair for each term.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>What would the explicit names be?  Some of the terms in the thread
> > >>>>>below use 'right' and 'left' where 'port' and 'starboard' might be
> > >>>>>more clear, since, as Roy points out, left and right can be taken
> > >>>>>as 'looking forwards from the platform or looking at the front of
> > >>>>>the platform.'
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I also agree that these are the most intuitive way to represent these
> > >>>>>angles/motions:
> > >>>>>>heave positive up
> > >>>>>>pitch positive bow up
> > >>>>>>yaw positive to starboard roll positive starboard side down
> > >>>>>Would the names be something like heave_up, pitch_bow_up, 
> > >>>>>yaw_to_starboard,
> > >>>>>and roll_to_starboard? We do need to differentiate these from the 
> > >>>>>exiting
> > >>>>>names.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Regards - Nan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Quoting "Lowry, Roy K."<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Dear Jim,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>From my researches into existing oceanographic data sets
> > >>>>>>>(SeaDataCloud holdings plus EU glider data projects), covering
> > >>>>>>>heave, pitch, roll and yaw. I haven't discovered a single
> > >>>>>>>deviation from the conventions:
> > >>>>>>heave positive up
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Pitch positive bow/nose up
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>yaw positive to starboard
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>roll starboard side down
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I have yet to find any data sets, other than those described by
> > >>>>>>Ken in these discussions, in my searches containing surge or sway.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>The only ambiguity I have found in the wider domain of Google is
> > >>>>>>where the concept of 'positive clockwise' has been used without
> > >>>>>>specifying whether the observer is looking forwards from the
> > >>>>>>platform or looking at the front of the platform. This isn't
> > >>>>>>helped by the multitude of bidirectional vectors (arrows at each
> > >>>>>>end) in illustrative diagrams.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Might our lives be made easier if we adopted a set of conventions,
> > >>>>>>state them explicitly in the Standard Names as Jonathan suggests
> > >>>>>>leaving room in the unlikely - in my view at least - event of
> > >>>>>>Standard Names for the opposite convention being required?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Cheers, Roy.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I have now retired but will continue to be active through an
> > >>>>>>Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>________________________________
> > >>>>>>From: CF-metadata<[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>  on behalf of
> > >>>>>>Jim Biard<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>Sent: 31 August 2018 14:38
> > >>>>>>To:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Jonathan,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>That's only part of the issue. Here are the issues as I see them.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>  *   There is no single sign convention being followed in
> > >>>>>>existing datasets "in the wild".
> > >>>>>>  *   There is a long-standing convention for vertical coordinates
> > >>>>>>using the attribute positive rather than having pairs of standard
> > >>>>>>names for height_positive_up, height_positive_down, etc. The
> > >>>>>>suggested solution is corollary, and the positive attribute could
> > >>>>>>be used instead of adding a new attribute named direction with a
> > >>>>>>suitable expansion of possible valid values.
> > >>>>>>  *   In order to cover all bases, we'd need three versions for
> > >>>>>>each standard name (e.g. - platform_roll, platform_roll_clockwise,
> > >>>>>>platform_roll_anticlockwise - or similar names)
> > >>>>>>  *   Having three different versions of each standard name will
> > >>>>>>lead to new possibilities for getting things wrong by picking the
> > >>>>>>wrong version.
> > >>>>>>  *   Semantically, there is only one concept in each case. If I
> > >>>>>>am searching for roll variables and I have multiple names that
> > >>>>>>mean roll, I must expand my search to include all variants. This
> > >>>>>>is a small example, but there are other examples of this problem
> > >>>>>>that are definitely not trivial and defeat one of the goals for
> > >>>>>>using standard names - being able to find like quantities across
> > >>>>>>datasets, particularly using automated techniques rather than
> > >>>>>>human eyes.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Grace and peace,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Jim
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>On 8/31/18 8:52 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Dear all
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I haven't been following this discussion, so please excuse me if I've 
> > >>>>>>missed
> > >>>>>>the point. I think you are suggesting introducing a new attribute to 
> > >>>>>>indicate
> > >>>>>>the positive sense of various new quantities for platform orientation 
> > >>>>>>- is
> > >>>>>>that right? To do that would not be consistent with other standard
> > >>>>>>names, which
> > >>>>>>(where relevant) all have the positive sense indicate in the standard 
> > >>>>>>name
> > >>>>>>itself. That's why there are many pairs of standard names for
> > >>>>>>upward/downward,
> > >>>>>>in particular. The reason for doing this is to make it impossible to 
> > >>>>>>name the
> > >>>>>>quantity without indicating its sign convention, whereas a separate 
> > >>>>>>attribute
> > >>>>>>can be omitted, and probably sometimes will. It also opens new 
> > >>>>>>possibilities
> > >>>>>>for getting things wrong, by putting illegal values in it.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Therefore I would argue for the same approach here, both because I 
> > >>>>>>think it's
> > >>>>>>less error-prone, and for consistency with other CF standard names. 
> > >>>>>>I'm sure
> > >>>>>>the objection occurs to you that this means more standard names. 
> > >>>>>>That's true,
> > >>>>>>but it's only twice as many, I believe, since each of the quantities 
> > >>>>>>has only
> > >>>>>>two possible senses.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Best wishes
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Jonathan
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>----- Forwarded message from Kenneth Kehoe
> > >>>>>><[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>  -----
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:05:44 -0600
> > >>>>>>From: Kenneth Kehoe<[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>To:[email protected] 
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave
> > >>>>>>User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0)
> > >>>>>>        Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.0
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I think we should keep things simple as Ethan suggests below. But
> > >>>>>>since the proposed attribute "direction" is defined as indicating
> > >>>>>>the positive direction we don't need to include the word positive.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>The terms would then be:
> > >>>>>>roll: "right_side_up" and "right_side_down"
> > >>>>>>pitch: "nose_up" and "nose_down"
> > >>>>>>yaw: "nose_right" and "nose_left"
> > >>>>>>surge: "forward" and "backward"
> > >>>>>>sway: "left" and "right"
> > >>>>>>heave: "up" and "down"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>It would be nice to be more explicit in the netCDF file and require
> > >>>>>>less on the standard_name definition so I would suggest we use the
> > >>>>>>original proposed attribute name of "positive_direction" with the
> > >>>>>>above allowed values.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Or if we don't want to add a new attribute we could use the existing
> > >>>>>>"positive" attribute and expand its allowed use. I've proposed this
> > >>>>>>in the past and it was decided to not expand the definition. I think
> > >>>>>>the concern for not expanding positive was the requirement of only
> > >>>>>>using that attribute on coordinate variables. For the coordinate
> > >>>>>>variable the only allowable values are up and down. But for this use
> > >>>>>>those values would only be attached to a variable, not a coordinate
> > >>>>>>variable.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Since we are creating an attribute to define the positive direction
> > >>>>>>I would like to add radial definition of "toward" and "away". But I
> > >>>>>>think we can simplify this a bit further. If we define the point of
> > >>>>>>reference that is moving in the standard name then we don't need to
> > >>>>>>put the point of reference in the positive (or direction or
> > >>>>>>positive_direction) attribute. For example the pitch standard_name
> > >>>>>>would indicate the location of reference of the nose. This would
> > >>>>>>then reduce the list of possible options to:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>roll: "up" and "down"
> > >>>>>>pitch: "up" and "down"
> > >>>>>>yaw: "right" and "left"
> > >>>>>>surge: "forward" and "backward"
> > >>>>>>sway: "left" and "right"
> > >>>>>>heave: "up" and "down"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>If we could use the current attribute of "positive" that has up and
> > >>>>>>down already defined then we only need to to add "right", "left",
> > >>>>>>"forward", "backward", "toward", "away".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Easy!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Ken
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>On 2018-8-29 13:54, Ethan Davis wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Hey Jim,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>How about removing one layer of terminology by using your
> > >>>>>>definitions for the allowed values of "direction":
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>roll: "positive_right_side_up" and "positive_right_side_down".
> > >>>>>>pitch: "positive_nose_up" and "positive_nose_down".
> > >>>>>>yaw: "positive_nose_right" and "positive_nose_left".
> > >>>>>>surge: "positive_forward" and "positive_backward".
> > >>>>>>sway: "positive_left" and "positive_right".
> > >>>>>>heave: "positive_up" and "positive_down".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Ethan
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:02 PM Jim Biard
> > >>>>>><[email protected]
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   John,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   There are a variety of conventions for defining roll, pitch, and
> > >>>>>>   yaw out there. This is why we are avoiding a specific one. Others
> > >>>>>>   have searched existing datasets that are using earlier versions of
> > >>>>>>   these standard names (or not using standard names) and found that
> > >>>>>>   they don't all follow the same convention.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Ethan,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   We purposely aren't answering that question directly because of
> > >>>>>>   the issue above. I believe that I have consistently followed the
> > >>>>>>   convention in which clockwise and anticlockwise are rotational
> > >>>>>>   directions around a unit vector facing the observer, where the X
> > >>>>>>   unit vector is in the nominally forward direction, the Z axis is
> > >>>>>>   in the local up direction, and the Y axis unit vector is "Z cross
> > >>>>>>   X", which forms a right-handed coordinate system. The terms are
> > >>>>>>   meaningful and accurate using that convention, but the names could
> > >>>>>>   be "alpha" and "beta" or "dog" and "cat" as long as they are used
> > >>>>>>   correctly.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   This whole topic is fraught with competing conventions, so we are
> > >>>>>>   attempting to avoid declaring that only one of them is valid, with
> > >>>>>>   it's corresponding requirement that everyone follow that one sign
> > >>>>>>   convention.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   In fact, we could reword things to remove naming the axes X, Y,
> > >>>>>>   and Z, and perhaps we should. I know of satellite platforms that
> > >>>>>>   define their Y axis unit vector as pointing forward and the Z axis
> > >>>>>>   unit vector as pointing down.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Thoughts?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Grace and peace,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Jim
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   On 8/29/18 1:32 PM, John Helly wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Perhaps one should refer to the discipline of hydrostatics for
> > >>>>>>   help with this?  This paper, pulled from a quick search, has a
> > >>>>>>   diagram referencing the platforms' frame of reference with
> > >>>>>>   respect to its center of gravity.  Sorry if this comment is
> > >>>>>>   retrograde.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   https://www.hindawi.com/journals/mpe/2010/934714/
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.hindawi.com_journals_mpe_2010_934714_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=NV5FW-iZ7Ml9G3tz6Dg4tXjiM7w1mDsctSx_tWbiTmc&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.hindawi.com_journals_mpe_2010_934714_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=NV5FW-iZ7Ml9G3tz6Dg4tXjiM7w1mDsctSx_tWbiTmc&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.hindawi.com_journals_mpe_2010_934714_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=NV5FW-iZ7Ml9G3tz6Dg4tXjiM7w1mDsctSx_tWbiTmc&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.hindawi.com_journals_mpe_2010_934714_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVM
 
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   J.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   On 8/29/18 10:09, Ethan Davis wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Hi Jim, all,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   I'm a bit confused by the "clockwise" and "anticlockwise". You
> > >>>>>>   mention the orientation of the observer but not the
> > >>>>>>   location/orientation of the clock. My assumptions (not sure why)
> > >>>>>>   for the clock: for roll, the observer (who is facing forward)
> > >>>>>>   would be facing the clock; for pitch, the observer would look
> > >>>>>>   right to see the clock; and for yaw, the observer would look
> > >>>>>>   down to see the clock. That works for your definitions of pitch
> > >>>>>>   and yaw, but is backwards for roll.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Does "clockwise" add, in some way, another degree of freedom to
> > >>>>>>   the definition? Does that degree of freedom need to be nailed
> > >>>>>>   down in the definitions? Or other terms used instead? I don't
> > >>>>>>   have any good suggestions other than "positive" and "negative".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Cheers,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   Ethan
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:03 AM Jim Biard
> > >>>>>><[email protected]
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>   <mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       Hi.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       I've finally gotten back to this topic! The definitions
> > >>>>>>       below call out an attribute named "direction" that is used
> > >>>>>>       to specify the direction for positive values of the
> > >>>>>>       different quantities. We may need to add a definition for
> > >>>>>>       the attribute to the Conventions. The values and meanings
> > >>>>>>       for the direction attribute are:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       roll: "clockwise" for positive right side up and
> > >>>>>>       "anticlockwise" for positive right side down.
> > >>>>>>       pitch: "clockwise" for positive nose up and "anticlockwise"
> > >>>>>>       for positive nose down.
> > >>>>>>       yaw: "clockwise" for positive nose right and "anticlockwise"
> > >>>>>>       for positive nose left.
> > >>>>>>       surge: "positive" for positive forward and "negative" for
> > >>>>>>       positive backward.
> > >>>>>>       sway: "positive" for positive left and "negative" for
> > >>>>>>       positive right.
> > >>>>>>       heave: "positive" for positive up and "negative" for
> > >>>>>>       positive down.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       And here are the standard name definitions:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_roll: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Roll is a rotation about
> > >>>>>>       an axis (the X axis) that is perpendicular to the local
> > >>>>>>       vertical axis (the Z axis) and is coplanar with the nominal
> > >>>>>>       forward motion direction of the platform. Roll is relative
> > >>>>>>       to the ?at rest? rotation of the platform with respect to
> > >>>>>>       the X axis. The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may
> > >>>>>>       change over time. The direction for positive values of roll
> > >>>>>>       is specified by an attribute named direction. The value of
> > >>>>>>       the direction attribute is "clockwise" if positive values of
> > >>>>>>       roll represent the right side of the platform rising as
> > >>>>>>       viewed by an observer on top of the platform facing forward.
> > >>>>>>       The value of the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if
> > >>>>>>       positive values of roll represent the right side of the
> > >>>>>>       platform falling. The directionality of roll values is
> > >>>>>>       unspecified if no direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_pitch: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Pitch is a rotation about
> > >>>>>>       an axis (the Y axis) that is perpendicular to both the local
> > >>>>>>       vertical axis (the Z axis) and the nominal forward motion
> > >>>>>>       direction of the platform. Pitch is relative to the ?at
> > >>>>>>       rest? rotation of the platform with respect to the Y axis.
> > >>>>>>       The ?at rest? rotation of the platform may change over time.
> > >>>>>>       The direction for positive values of pitch is specified by
> > >>>>>>       an attribute named direction. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "clockwise" if positive values of pitch
> > >>>>>>       represent the front of the platform rising as viewed by an
> > >>>>>>       observer on top of the platform facing forward. The value of
> > >>>>>>       the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if positive
> > >>>>>>       values of pitch represent the front of the platform falling.
> > >>>>>>       The directionality of pitch values is unspecified if no
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_yaw: Platform is a structure or vehicle that serves
> > >>>>>>       as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include, but are
> > >>>>>>       not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships, buoys, ground
> > >>>>>>       stations, and masts. Yaw is a rotation about the local
> > >>>>>>       vertical axis (the Z axis). Yaw is relative to the ?at rest?
> > >>>>>>       rotation of the platform with respect to the Z axis. The ?at
> > >>>>>>       rest? rotation of the platform may change over time. The
> > >>>>>>       direction for positive values of yaw is specified by an
> > >>>>>>       attribute named direction. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "clockwise" if positive values of yaw represent
> > >>>>>>       the front of the platform moving to the right as viewed by
> > >>>>>>       an observer on top of the platform facing forward. The value
> > >>>>>>       of the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if positive
> > >>>>>>       values of yaw represent the front of the platform moving to
> > >>>>>>       the left. The directionality of yaw values is unspecified if
> > >>>>>>       no direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_surge: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Surge is a displacement
> > >>>>>>       along an axis (the X axis) that is perpendicular to the
> > >>>>>>       local vertical axis (the Z axis) and is coplanar with the
> > >>>>>>       nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Surge is
> > >>>>>>       relative to the ?at rest? position of the platform with
> > >>>>>>       respect to the X axis. The ?at rest? position of the
> > >>>>>>       platform may change over time. The direction for positive
> > >>>>>>       values of surge is specified by an attribute named
> > >>>>>>       direction. The value of the direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       "positive" if positive values of surge represent the
> > >>>>>>       platform moving forward as viewed by an observer on top of
> > >>>>>>       the platform facing forward. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "negative" if positive values of surge
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving backward. The directionality
> > >>>>>>       of surge values is unspecified if no direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_sway: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Sway is a displacement
> > >>>>>>       along an axis (the Y axis) that is perpendicular to both the
> > >>>>>>       local vertical axis (the Z axis) and the nominal forward
> > >>>>>>       motion direction of the platform. Sway is relative to the
> > >>>>>>       ?at rest? position of the platform with respect to the Y
> > >>>>>>       axis. The ?at rest? position of the platform may change over
> > >>>>>>       time.  The direction for positive values of sway is
> > >>>>>>       specified by an attribute named direction. The value of the
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is "positive" if positive values of sway
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving left as viewed by an observer
> > >>>>>>       on top of the platform facing forward. The value of the
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is "negative" if positive values of sway
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving right. The directionality of
> > >>>>>>       sway values is unspecified if no direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_heave: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Heave is a displacement
> > >>>>>>       along the local vertical axis (the Z axis). Heave is
> > >>>>>>       relative to the ?at rest? position of the platform with
> > >>>>>>       respect to the Z axis. The ?at rest? position of the
> > >>>>>>       platform may change over time.  The direction for positive
> > >>>>>>       values of heave is specified by an attribute named
> > >>>>>>       direction. The value of the direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       "positive" if positive values of heave represent the
> > >>>>>>       platform moving up as viewed by an observer on top of the
> > >>>>>>       platform facing forward. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "negative" if positive values of heave
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving down. The directionality of
> > >>>>>>       heave values is unspecified if no direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_course: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Course is the clockwise
> > >>>>>>       angle with respect to North of the nominal forward motion
> > >>>>>>       direction of the platform.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_orientation: Platform is a structure or vehicle
> > >>>>>>       that serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms
> > >>>>>>       include, but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes,
> > >>>>>>       ships, buoys, ground stations, and masts. Orientation is the
> > >>>>>>       clockwise angle with respect to North of the longitudinal
> > >>>>>>       (front-to-back) axis of the platform, which may be different
> > >>>>>>       than the platform course (see platform_course).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_roll_rate: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Roll rate is the rate of
> > >>>>>>       rotation about an axis (the X axis) that is perpendicular to
> > >>>>>>       the local vertical axis (the Z axis) and is coplanar with
> > >>>>>>       the nominal forward motion direction of the platform. Roll
> > >>>>>>       rate might not include changes in the ?at rest? rotation of
> > >>>>>>       the platform, which may change over time. The direction for
> > >>>>>>       positive values of roll rate is specified by an attribute
> > >>>>>>       named direction. The value of the direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       "clockwise" if positive values of roll rate represent the
> > >>>>>>       right side of the platform rising as viewed by an observer
> > >>>>>>       on top of the platform facing forward. The value of the
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if positive values of
> > >>>>>>       roll rate represent the right side of the platform falling.
> > >>>>>>       The directionality of roll rate values is unspecified if no
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_pitch_rate: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Pitch rate is the rate of
> > >>>>>>       rotation about an axis (the Y axis) that is perpendicular to
> > >>>>>>       both the local vertical axis (the Z axis) and the nominal
> > >>>>>>       forward motion direction of the platform. Pitch rate might
> > >>>>>>       not include changes in the ?at rest? rotation of the
> > >>>>>>       platform, which may change over time. The direction for
> > >>>>>>       positive values of pitch rate is specified by an attribute
> > >>>>>>       named direction. The value of the direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       "clockwise" if positive values of pitch rate represent the
> > >>>>>>       front of the platform rising as viewed by an observer on top
> > >>>>>>       of the platform facing forward. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "anticlockwise" if positive values of pitch
> > >>>>>>       rate represent the front of the platform falling. The
> > >>>>>>       directionality of pitch rate values is unspecified if no
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_yaw_rate: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Yaw rate is the rate of
> > >>>>>>       rotation about the local vertical axis (the Z axis). Yaw
> > >>>>>>       rate might not include changes in the ?at rest? rotation of
> > >>>>>>       the platform, which may change over time. The direction for
> > >>>>>>       positive values of yaw rate is specified by an attribute
> > >>>>>>       named direction. The value of the direction attribute is
> > >>>>>>       "clockwise" if positive values of yaw rate represent the
> > >>>>>>       front of the platform moving to the right as viewed by an
> > >>>>>>       observer on top of the platform facing forward. The value of
> > >>>>>>       the direction attribute is "anticlockwise" if positive
> > >>>>>>       values of yaw rate represent the front of the platform
> > >>>>>>       moving to the left. The directionality of yaw rate values is
> > >>>>>>       unspecified if no direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_surge_rate: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Surge rate is the rate of
> > >>>>>>       displacement along an axis (the X axis) that is
> > >>>>>>       perpendicular to the local vertical axis (the Z axis) and is
> > >>>>>>       coplanar with the nominal forward motion direction of the
> > >>>>>>       platform. Surge rate might not include changes in the ?at
> > >>>>>>       rest? position of the platform, which may change over time.
> > >>>>>>       The direction for positive values of surge rate is specified
> > >>>>>>       by an attribute named direction. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "positive" if positive values of surge rate
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving forward as viewed by an
> > >>>>>>       observer on top of the platform facing forward. The value of
> > >>>>>>       the direction attribute is "negative" if positive values of
> > >>>>>>       surge rate represent the platform moving backward. The
> > >>>>>>       directionality of surge rate values is unspecified if no
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_sway_rate: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Sway rate is the rate of
> > >>>>>>       displacement along an axis (the Y axis) that is
> > >>>>>>       perpendicular to both the local vertical axis (the Z axis)
> > >>>>>>       and the nominal forward motion direction of the platform.
> > >>>>>>       Sway rate might not include changes in the ?at rest?
> > >>>>>>       position of the platform, which may change over time. The
> > >>>>>>       direction for positive values of sway rate is specified by
> > >>>>>>       an attribute named direction. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "positive" if positive values of sway rate
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving left as viewed by an observer
> > >>>>>>       on top of the platform facing forward. The value of the
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is "negative" if positive values of sway
> > >>>>>>       rate represent the platform moving right. The directionality
> > >>>>>>       of sway rate values is unspecified if no direction attribute
> > >>>>>>       is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       platform_heave_rate: Platform is a structure or vehicle that
> > >>>>>>       serves as a base for mounting sensors. Platforms include,
> > >>>>>>       but are not limited to, satellites, aeroplanes, ships,
> > >>>>>>       buoys, ground stations, and masts. Heave rate is the rate of
> > >>>>>>       displacement along the local vertical axis (the Z axis).
> > >>>>>>       Heave rate might not include changes in the ?at rest?
> > >>>>>>       position of the platform, which may change over time. The
> > >>>>>>       direction for positive values of heave rate is specified by
> > >>>>>>       an attribute named direction. The value of the direction
> > >>>>>>       attribute is "positive" if positive values of heave rate
> > >>>>>>       represent the platform moving up as viewed by an observer on
> > >>>>>>       top of the platform facing forward. The value of the
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is "negative" if positive values of
> > >>>>>>       heave rate represent the platform moving down. The
> > >>>>>>       directionality of heave rate values is unspecified if no
> > >>>>>>       direction attribute is present.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       Grace and peace,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>       Jim
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.facebook.com_cicsnc&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=QlBTCEJ-1zY8HYYE-fNxyp7W2lFizXxrb6KMRXUvDMg&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.facebook.com_cicsnc&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=QlBTCEJ-1zY8HYYE-fNxyp7W2lFizXxrb6KMRXUvDMg&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.facebook.com_cicsnc&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=QlBTCEJ-1zY8HYYE-fNxyp7W2lFizXxrb6KMRXUvDMg&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.facebook.com_cicsnc&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=QlBTCEJ-1zY8HYYE-fNxyp7W2
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> > >>>>>>        *Jim Biard*
> > >>>>>>   *Research Scholar*
> > >>>>>>   Cooperative Institute for Climate and Satellites NC
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cicsnc.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=FsLkqUXutAcXAPp22ZFFI6PUFlxtYMRYP65HFKMn6wQ&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cicsnc.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=FsLkqUXutAcXAPp22ZFFI6PUFlxtYMRYP65HFKMn6wQ&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cicsnc.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=FsLkqUXutAcXAPp22ZFFI6PUFlxtYMRYP65HFKMn6wQ&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__cicsnc.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=FsLkqUXutAcXAPp22ZFFI6PUFlxtYMRYP65HFKMn6wQ&e=>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   North Carolina State University
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncsu.edu_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=hkh8KblCtKqdp0zgN1OJbRBL0hfQw6tQwazcgNBCYCM&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncsu.edu_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=hkh8KblCtKqdp0zgN1OJbRBL0hfQw6tQwazcgNBCYCM&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncsu.edu_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=hkh8KblCtKqdp0zgN1OJbRBL0hfQw6tQwazcgNBCYCM&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncsu.edu_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=hkh8KblCtKqdp0zgN1OJbRBL0hfQw6tQwazcgNBCYCM&e=>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncdc.noaa.gov_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=lRLoOpPkER90BdM_TLc6QrJjgxz8V1gUTPLG5FHbLNk&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncdc.noaa.gov_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=lRLoOpPkER90BdM_TLc6QrJjgxz8V1gUTPLG5FHbLNk&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncdc.noaa.gov_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=lRLoOpPkER90BdM_TLc6QrJjgxz8V1gUTPLG5FHbLNk&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ncdc.noaa.gov_&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=lRLoOpPkER90BdM_TLc6QrJjgxz8V1gUTPLG5FHbLNk&e=>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   /formerly NOAA?s National Climatic Data Center/
> > >>>>>>   151 Patton Ave, Asheville, NC 28801
> > >>>>>>   e:[email protected]
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>   o: +1 828 271 4900
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   /Connect with us on Facebook for climate
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=IHiNI2oKTMXCgS6xh6TruNzh-tpMlrDgwrCErMx3Z-0&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=IHiNI2oKTMXCgS6xh6TruNzh-tpMlrDgwrCErMx3Z-0&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=IHiNI2oKTMXCgS6xh6TruNzh-tpMlrDgwrCErMx3Z-0&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmt
 wWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=IHiNI2oKTMXCgS6xh6TruNzh-tpMlrDgwrCErMx3Z-0&e=>
> > >>>>>>   and ocean and geophysics
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIoceangeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=9i9XGUDVz9JclOsGWxIvmi1O2ulu_Ta_r0Ia8NwEbKM&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIoceangeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=9i9XGUDVz9JclOsGWxIvmi1O2ulu_Ta_r0Ia8NwEbKM&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIoceangeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=9i9XGUDVz9JclOsGWxIvmi1O2ulu_Ta_r0Ia8NwEbKM&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_NOAANCEIoceangeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4S
 sBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=9i9XGUDVz9JclOsGWxIvmi1O2ulu_Ta_r0Ia8NwEbKM&e=>
> > >>>>>>   information, and follow us on Twitter at @NOAANCEIclimate
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=XMw4fQ1_EhOoPwwVIa2gAsjDFQNzOIJ4sXv6DlAVq_4&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=XMw4fQ1_EhOoPwwVIa2gAsjDFQNzOIJ4sXv6DlAVq_4&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=XMw4fQ1_EhOoPwwVIa2gAsjDFQNzOIJ4sXv6DlAVq_4&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIclimate&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=XMw4f
 Q1_EhOoPwwVIa2gAsjDFQNzOIJ4sXv6DlAVq_4&e=>
> > >>>>>>   and @NOAANCEIocngeo
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIocngeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=rQdLOnos9rBDcbJXGsD7CgZgcW2493WTB3e8bO8bqVo&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIocngeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=rQdLOnos9rBDcbJXGsD7CgZgcW2493WTB3e8bO8bqVo&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIocngeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=rQdLOnos9rBDcbJXGsD7CgZgcW2493WTB3e8bO8bqVo&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_NOAANCEIocngeo&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=rQdLOnos9
 rBDcbJXGsD7CgZgcW2493WTB3e8bO8bqVo&e=>.
> > >>>>>>   /
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>   _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>   CF-metadata mailing list
> > >>>>>>   [email protected] 
> > >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]> 
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>   http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailman.cgd.ucar.edu_mailman_listinfo_cf-2Dmetadata&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=aEFMW9rC-ZIMfpnOfGtNzFe4-ieMDTvZ6FT1YaDGMzk&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailman.cgd.ucar.edu_mailman_listinfo_cf-2Dmetadata&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=aEFMW9rC-ZIMfpnOfGtNzFe4-ieMDTvZ6FT1YaDGMzk&e=><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailman.cgd.ucar.edu_mailman_listinfo_cf-2Dmetadata&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8fu4TfEHS8sGNk&r=Vm7o2ZGxPkkqRuPs8nVMVQ&m=V30oufQn7eoscpwV3fkPj-Rzw4SsBmtwWpTQ8PZaDgQ&s=aEFMW9rC-ZIMfpnOfGtNzFe4-ieMDTvZ6FT1YaDGMzk&e=>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailman.cgd.ucar.edu_mailman_listinfo_cf-2Dmetadata&d=DwMFaQ&c=qKdtBuuu6dQK9MsRUVJ2DPXW6oayO8
 
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>CF-metadata mailing list
> > >>>>>>[email protected] 
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>--
> > >>>>>>Kenneth E. Kehoe
> > >>>>>>  Research Associate - University of Oklahoma
> > >>>>>>  Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies
> > >>>>>>  ARM Climate Research Facility - Data Quality Office
> > >>>>>>  e-mail:[email protected]
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>  | Office:
> > >>>>>>303-497-4754 | Cell: 405-826-0299
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>CF-metadata mailing list
> > >>>>>>[email protected] 
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>----- End forwarded message -----
> > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>CF-metadata mailing list
> > >>>>>>[email protected] 
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>--
> > >>>>>>[CICS-NC]<http://www.cicsnc.org/> <http://www.cicsnc.org/>  Visit us 
> > >>>>>>on
> > >>>>>>Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/cicsnc> 
> > >>>>>><http://www.facebook.com/cicsnc>        Jim Biard
> > >>>>>>Research Scholar
> > >>>>>>Cooperative Institute for Climate and Satellites 
> > >>>>>>NC<http://cicsnc.org/> <http://cicsnc.org/>
> > >>>>>>North Carolina State University<http://ncsu.edu/> <http://ncsu.edu/>
> > >>>>>>NOAA National Centers for Environmental 
> > >>>>>>Information<http://ncdc.noaa.gov/> <http://ncdc.noaa.gov/>
> > >>>>>>formerly NOAA?s National Climatic Data Center
> > >>>>>>151 Patton Ave, Asheville, NC 28801
> > >>>>>>e:[email protected]
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>><mailto:[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>o: +1 828 271 4900
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Connect with us on Facebook for
> > >>>>>>climate<https://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIclimate>
> > >>>>>><https://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIclimate>  and ocean
> > >>>>>>and
> > >>>>>>geophysics<https://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIoceangeo>
> > >>>>>><https://www.facebook.com/NOAANCEIoceangeo>
> > >>>>>>information,
> > >>>>>>and follow us on Twitter at
> > >>>>>>@NOAANCEIclimate<https://twitter.com/NOAANCEIclimate>
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