CF-aficionados,

I subscribed to this list awhile ago and read the occasional emails that relate to the standards.  I can definitely appreciate the passion in this community!

However, I don't think forwarding all GitHub issue traffic to a mailing list is a good idea, especially when by accident if someone can respond to such a notification by email, cc the GitHub-subscribed list in their email and thereby trick GitHub into assuming the list itself had responded, rather than the list subscriber (who presumably does not have a GitHub account or was replying with an email address GitHub didn't recognize).

This was suggested already, but to reiterate: whoever knows the 'cf-metadata-list' GitHub account password, just log in and check the 'unsubscribe' button on this issue and spare us the spam.

Or, if the list GitHub account owner isn't out there - or on vacation perhaps - a second option is just to take mercy on us all and close this particular issue, move on to a new, fresh and clean calendar issue to debate this topic, and refer back to the original trouble issue for context (just a simple cf-conventions#148 string in the new issue will do the trick). This way, all your discussion isn't lost, and hopefully the 'cf-metadata-list' GitHub account problem can be sorted out in good time without all these emails for us all to delete...


This reminds me of a really fun chain email incident we had at NOAA recently (others here may recall), where a never-ending chain started of 'please unsubscribe me from this list' reply-all emails to a particular email alias to which a good part of the agency is auto-subscribed, each new email just prolonging the spam for everyone else.  I missed out on replying-all to join in that fun, but not this time!  So.... please unsubscribe me!!

Sincerely,

Micah


On 11/8/18 4:20 PM, Mcgibbney, Lewis J (398M) wrote:

Hello Folks,

I refrained from commenting on this thread for a day or two now with the hope that someone would sort our the cross-posting issue. As it has not been sorted out, I wanted to share some of the actions I’ve undertaken in an effort to mute the thread on my side…

  * I unsubscribed from the listserv
  * I tried to mute the thread on Github, which I was unable to do
    because my JPL email address has never been associated with a
    Github thread.
  * I unfollowed the repository with my personal email address and set
    notifications to off.
  * … I was still getting notifications after the above actions, so
    I’ve resorted to trashing every message which matches
    ‘cf-convention/cf-conventions’ in title.

This is a shame as I did for a while monitor what was going on within this community.

Someone, somewhere has switched something to cross post every event to the mailing list, which is not a good thing to do unless people like that kind of traffic. As you can see from the sentiment which has been posted here, people get rather annoyed pretty quickly.

I’ll maybe try joining again the mailing list in the future and see if this has been sorted out however until then keep up the good work on CF-Conventions folks.

Lewis

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*From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of Chris Barker <[email protected]> *Reply-To: *cf-convention/cf-conventions <reply+01f236817c81e46a1168d208892316e4b22795fa89fc3c6192cf0000000117fc688c92a169ce1651d...@reply.github.com>
*Date: *Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 1:12 PM
*To: *cf-convention/cf-conventions <[email protected]>
*Cc: *CF Conventions mailing list <[email protected]>, Comment <[email protected]> *Subject: *Re: [cf-convention/cf-conventions] Add calendars gregorian_tai and gregorian_utc (#148)

    The CF calendar attribute specifies the calendar for the reference
    timestamp and other timestamps, and the rules for converting
    between timestamps and time coordinates. This seems convenient and
    clear to me. We just need to add the new ones for (proper) UTC,
    TAI and GPS, I think.

and a new one for this use case -- the current "gregorian" is NOT the same thing. It often (maybe mostly) is, but it is actually ambiguous with regard to leap seconds, and we need to keep that.

Also, once we have the new "calendars", it should not be used for this use case, and should only be used with "metrical" values :-)

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