Dear Chris,

The embedding of semantics in units of measure is something I have fought 
against for decades, largely because software agent AI algorithms are unlikely 
to look for them there. Your suggestion is also something that would never get 
past the guardians of UDUNITS.

However, I can understand your frustration with vital semantics being buried in 
the long name. Might a better solution be to include the necessary semantics in 
the Standard Name? This has been done previously. For example:

surface_upward_mass_flux_of_carbon_dioxide_expressed_as_carbon_due_to_anthropogenic_land_use_or_land_cover_change_excluding_forestry_and_agricultural_products

sinking_mole_flux_of_calcite_expressed_as_carbon_in_sea_water

All in all a search for '%flux%expressed_as_carbon%' turned up 39 hits. There 
are other examples that include phrases like 'expressed as 13C'.

If you are using Standard Names that do not include the 'expressed_as' clause 
and no suitable alternatives with the clause exist then I would suggest that 
you put in a new Standard Name request.

Cheers, Roy.


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Sent: 31 January 2019 09:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CF-metadata] CMIP6 Confusion regarding carbon flux units


Dear Martin, dear All,



it is emerging that groups are making errors in implementing the carbon cycle 
data requests - especially regarding the units of carbon fluxes.



The issue is confusion over whether to report kg of CARBON or kg of CO2.



The intended correct answer is buried deep within the long name, where fluxes 
are described as, “…. flux of CO2 expressed as carbon …”. But unless you know 
where to look this is rather hidden and is resulting in groups mixing units of 
carbon and CO2 across variables.



So this is a request - actually a plea - that we revisit the decision to 
include the quantity in the units definition. I have heard the arguments that 
“kg C” is not an SI unit and we just need to explain it in the long name - but 
this is really not working and is causing real confusion and errors.



So PLEASE, PLEASE, can we re-define the labels for carbon fluxes and stores in 
terms of “kgC m-2 s-1” etc. ?



There has been such a massive effort to both define and implement this data 
request it would be a huge shame if substantial errors came in at the last 
minute - this small change will prevent that.



thanks,

Chris







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