Dear Alison,

thanks, I agree with those definitions,


regards,

Martin


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From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of Jonathan 
Gregory <j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk>
Sent: 13 June 2019 14:58
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
Subject: [CF-metadata] Volume fraction standard names

Dear Alison

Thanks, as ever. This all looks fine to me.

Best wishes

Jonathan

----- Forwarded message from Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC 
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 11:53:53 +0000
> From: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC <alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk>
> To: "CF-metadata (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu)" <cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>
> Subject: [CF-metadata] Volume fraction standard names
>
> Dear Jonathan, Karl and Martin,
>
> Apologies for breaking off the earlier discussion of the volume_fraction 
> names. (The area_fraction changes were included in the May standard names 
> update).
>
> Most of the volume names are formulated as volume_fraction_of_X_in_Y where Y 
> is either 'soil' or 'sea_water'. The reason for my earlier suggestion was 
> that in a soil model or ocean model I would expect the volume of soil or 
> sea_water to be the same as the volume of the grid cell. However, Jonathan's 
> interpretation is more general and works even when Y does not occupy the full 
> grid cell volume, e.g, for soil pores or partial cells.
>
> I'd like to amend the suggested definition as follows:
> '"Volume fraction" is used in the construction volume_fraction_of_X_in_Y, 
> where X is a material constituent of Y. It is evaluated as the volume of X 
> divided by the volume of Y (including X). It may be expressed as a fraction, 
> a percentage, or any other dimensionless representation of a fraction.'
> This is similar to the mass_fraction definition and I think it would work for 
> 10 of the 11 existing names.
>
> The only name that follows a different pattern is ocean_volume_fraction. 
> Thank you Jonathan and Karl for providing guidance on this one - there seems 
> to be agreement that it is the fraction of the grid cell volume occupied by 
> sea-water. For this one I suggest the following:
> '"X_volume_fraction" means the fraction of grid box volume occupied by X. It 
> is evaluated as the volume of interest divided by the grid cell volume. It 
> may be expressed as a fraction, a percentage, or any other dimensionless 
> representation of a fraction. A data variable with standard name 
> ocean_volume_fraction is used to store the fraction of a grid cell underlying 
> sea-water, for example, where part of the grid cell is occupied by land or to 
> record ocean volume on a model's native grid following a regridding 
> operation.'
>
> The full list of names with amended definitions can be viewed in the CEDA 
> vocabulary editor: 
> http://cfeditor.ceda.ac.uk/proposals/1?status=active&namefilter=volume_fraction&proposerfilter=&descfilter=&unitfilter=&yearfilter=2019&commentfilter=&filter+and+display=Filter.
>  If you are happy with these changes, I think they can all be included in the 
> next update.
>
> Best wishes,
> Alison
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> On Behalf Of Jonathan 
> Gregory
> Sent: 24 April 2019 18:41
> To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name: 
> area_fraction
>
> Dear Alison
>
> Thanks for your analysis. I agree with your proposal that we should define 
> consistently what we mean by the area and volume fractions.
>
> It seems to me that the 9 volume_fraction names are differently formulated 
> from the area_fraction names. With one exception, they all have the form 
> volume_fraction_of_X_in_Y. I take this to mean the volume of X is a subset of 
> the volume of Y. The case with X=clay and Y=soil has the same kind of 
> interpretation to the case with X=condensed_water and Y=soil_pores. Both X 
> and Y are volumes. The grid-box volume is not involved in the definition.
>
> The exception is ocean_volume_fraction. This is the only one which is like 
> the area_fractions. I think you're right that it means the fraction of the 
> grid-box volume which is ocean. This could differ from unity if the grid-box 
> is partly land (maybe some ocean models allow this) or if the ocean does not 
> occupy the entire thickness of the cell (i.e. part of it is the solid under- 
> lying the sea-water - certainly some models have such "partial cells").
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jonathan
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC 
> <alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk> -----
>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:55:39 +0000
> > From: Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC <alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk>
> > To: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk>, "Taylor, Karl E."
> >      <taylo...@llnl.gov>, "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu"
> >      <cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> >      area_fraction
> >
> > Dear Martin, Karl, et al,
> >
> > I'd like to return to the discussion on the definitions of area_fraction 
> > names, as I think we were on the points of agreement. Apologies for the 
> > delay in getting back to this.
> >
> > I think we were pretty much agreed on the following:
> > ' "Area fraction" is the fraction of a grid cell's horizontal area that has 
> > some characteristic of interest.  It is evaluated as the area of interest 
> > divided by the grid cell area.  It may be expressed as a fraction, a 
> > percentage, or any other dimensionless representation of a fraction. To 
> > specify which area is quantified by a variable with standard name 
> > area_fraction, provide a coordinate variable or scalar coordinate variable 
> > with standard name area_type. Alternatively, if one is defined, use a more 
> > specific standard name of X_area_fraction for the fraction of horizontal 
> > area occupied by X. '
> >
> > Karl queried what is meant by "or any other dimensionless representation of 
> > a fraction" and whether we need that phrase. Martin pointed out that volume 
> > fractions can sometimes be expressed as, for example, 1.e-6 (ppm), even if 
> > we don't usually do this for area fractions.
> >
> > Following Martin's comment I've had another look at the existing names - we 
> > have 36 area_fraction names and 11 volume_fraction names, none of whose 
> > definitions currently explain how the fraction should be expressed. This 
> > seems like a good opportunity to clarify both sets of names and standardize 
> > the wording of the definitions. I suggest therefore that we update the 
> > area_fraction names using the wording agreed above, and the volume_fraction 
> > names could be updated similarly.
> >
> > For example,  volume_fraction_of_clay_in_soil is currently defined only as 
> > ' "Volume fraction" is used in the construction volume_fraction_of_X_in_Y, 
> > where X is a material constituent of Y' . This could be updated to:
> > ' "Volume fraction" is the fraction of a grid cell's volume that has some 
> > characteristic of interest. It is evaluated as the volume of interest 
> > divided by the grid cell volume. The phrase "volume_fraction_of_X_in_soil" 
> > refers to the volume of a soil model grid cell. It may be expressed as a 
> > fraction, a percentage, or any other dimensionless representation of a 
> > fraction.'
> >
> > There is one exception to the general pattern of the volume_fraction names, 
> > which I suggest should be updated as follows:
> > volume_fraction_of_condensed_water_in_soil_pores
> > ' "Volume_fraction_of_condensed_water_in_soil_pores" is the ratio of the 
> > volume of condensed water in soil pores to the volume of the pores 
> > themselves. It may be expressed as a fraction, a percentage, or any other 
> > dimensionless representation of a fraction. "Condensed water" means liquid 
> > and ice.'
> >
> > There is also an existing volume_fraction name that puzzles me: 
> > ocean_volume_fraction, currently defined as ' "X_volume_fraction" means the 
> > fraction of volume occupied by X.' Do some models contain grid cells that 
> > are partly in the atmosphere and partly in the ocean, and this is the 
> > fraction of grid cell volume that is beneath the sea surface? Or does it 
> > mean the fraction of the water in an ocean column that is contained within 
> > a particular grid cell? Or something else? Does anyone know what this name 
> > is used for?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Alison
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Alison Pamment                                                         Tel: 
> > +44 1235 778065
> > NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data Analysis    Email: 
> > alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> On Behalf Of
> > Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
> > Sent: 15 February 2019 09:21
> > To: Taylor, Karl E. <taylo...@llnl.gov>; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
> > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > area_fraction
> >
> > Hello Karl,
> >
> >
> > "other dimensionless representations" are common in volume fractions, e.g. 
> > 1.e-6 (ppm). This is not usually used for area fractions, but it is allowed.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of
> > Taylor, Karl E. <taylo...@llnl.gov>
> > Sent: 12 February 2019 06:08:31
> > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
> > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > area_fraction
> >
> > Hi Alison,
> >
> > Looks good to me.
> >
> > Perhaps Martin can weigh in on whether or not the phrase "or any other 
> > dimensionless representation of a fraction" is needed.  Are there any such 
> > entities?
> >
> > best regards,
> > Karl
> >
> > On 2/11/19 11:14 AM, Alison Pamment - UKRI STFC wrote:
> > > Dear Karl,
> > >
> > > I like that definition - it gives a clear explanation of the purpose of 
> > > the name as well as the acceptable ways of expressing the fraction.
> > >
> > > We should also retain the existing text about the use of area_type or 
> > > more specific X_area_fraction names to specify *which* area is being 
> > > quantified. So then we'd have:
> > > ' "Area fraction" is the fraction of a grid cell's horizontal area that 
> > > has some characteristic of interest.  It is evaluated as the area of 
> > > interest divided by the grid cell area.  It may be expressed as a 
> > > fraction, a percentage, or any other dimensionless representation of a 
> > > fraction. To specify which area is quantified by a variable with standard 
> > > name area_fraction, provide a coordinate variable or scalar coordinate 
> > > variable with standard name area_type. Alternatively, if one is defined, 
> > > use a more specific standard name of X_area_fraction for the fraction of 
> > > horizontal area occupied by X. '
> > >
> > >   (Out of curiosity I tried entering k% into UDunits. Not too 
> > > surprisingly it responded with "Don't recognize " k%" ").
> > >
> > > Best wishes,
> > > Alison
> > >
> > > ------
> > > Alison Pamment                                 Tel: +44 1235 778065
> > > NCAS/Centre for Environmental Data Archival    Email: 
> > > alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk
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> > > Harwell Oxford, Didcot, OX11 0QX, U.K.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> On Behalf Of Taylor, 
> > > Karl E.
> > > Sent: 07 February 2019 17:24
> > > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > > area_fraction
> > >
> > > HI Martin and all,
> > >
> > > I agree that the best option is to modify the text.  In that regard, I 
> > > stumbled over the word "proportional" ... proportional to what? Also, 
> > > only udunits experts will recognize that "1" has a specific meaning when 
> > > appearing as a unit, so "conforms to 1" might be unclear.  Would 
> > > something like the following be better?
> > >
> > > "Area Fraction" is the fraction of a grid cell's horizontal area that has 
> > > some characteristic of interest.  It is evaluated as the area of interest 
> > > divided by the grid cell area.  It may be expressed as a fraction, a 
> > > percentage, or any other dimensionless representation of a fraction."
> > >
> > > By the way, off hand I can't think of "other dimensionless 
> > > representations of a fraction"  Is kilo-percent (k%) legal?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Karl
> > >
> > > On 2/7/19 8:57 AM, Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC wrote:
> > >> Dear Jonathan,
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, that justification will be helpful in replying to people.
> > >>
> > >> To summarise, the proposal (now backed by Jonathan and John -- after 
> > >> dropping the idea of changing the standard name) is that the current 
> > >> text '"Area fraction" means the fraction of horizontal area.' in the 
> > >> description of the standard name "area_fraction" should be replaced with 
> > >> the following:
> > >> "Area Fraction" is a dimensionless number representing a relative or 
> > >> proportional area. It may be expressed as a fraction, percentage or any 
> > >> other unit that conforms to "1".  It is evaluated as the area of 
> > >> interest divided by the grid cell area, scaled for the units chosen.
> > >>
> > >> regards,
> > >> Martin
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of
> > >> Jonathan Gregory <j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk>
> > >> Sent: 06 February 2019 21:23
> > >> To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
> > >> Subject: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > >> area_fraction
> > >>
> > >> Dear Martin
> > >>
> > >> I would say yes, that the use of "fraction" in area_fraction is for
> > >> consistency with all the other uses of "fraction" in standard names
> > >> (mass, mole, time and volume). In addition I would say that "cover"
> > >> would be a confusing word to use, because "land cover" often means
> > >> "land surface type". Finally, I would say to experts who are
> > >> offended that in this case, as in plenty of others where CF has not
> > >> quite followed familiar terminology in the domain, there is no
> > >> implication that anyone thinks they are "wrong" in their
> > >> terminology. It's just that CF is used across a wide range of 
> > >> disciplines and as far as possible all of it has to be consistent and 
> > >> intelligible to everyone.
> > >>
> > >> Best wishes
> > >>
> > >> Jonathan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Forwarded message from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
> > >> <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk> -----
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 12:16:06 +0000
> > >>> From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk>
> > >>> To: John Graybeal <jbgrayb...@mindspring.com>, Jim Biard
> > >>> <jbi...@cicsnc.org>
> > >>> Cc: "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" <cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > >>>          area_fraction
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello John, others,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for those comments. I can see the value of maintaining 
> > >>> consistency and being careful about changing things which have worked 
> > >>> well for a long time, but I would rather not go back to the people who 
> > >>> find the existing terminology confusing (these are people who have 
> > >>> specifically commented on the standard name area_fraction) and tell 
> > >>> them that we are not changing it because it has always been like that. 
> > >>> I'd rather have a more positive message that might encourage them to 
> > >>> appreciate the value of CF.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm not sure if this is true, but it looks to me as though the 
> > >>> formulation "area_fraction" owes something to "volume_fraction", 
> > >>> "mass_fraction" and "mole_fraction", all of which follow wide spread 
> > >>> usage in the atmospheric and oceanographic science communities. People 
> > >>> who use mass and volume fractions appear to be accustomed to having 
> > >>> these expressed as percentages outside CF, so it is no surprise to find 
> > >>> this done in CF. For "area_fraction" we have a slightly different 
> > >>> situation: the term doesn't arise from expressions used in the land 
> > >>> surface science communities, rather it is a semantic structure being 
> > >>> imposed on them. Does anyone now if this interpretation is correct 
> > >>> (i.e. that we use "area_fraction" rather than something which might be 
> > >>> more familiar for land surface scientists such as "area_cover" in order 
> > >>> to maintain consistency with mass, volume and mole fractions)?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Martin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: CF-metadata <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu> on behalf of
> > >>> John Graybeal <jbgrayb...@mindspring.com>
> > >>> Sent: 01 February 2019 07:12
> > >>> To: Jim Biard
> > >>> Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > >>> area_fraction
> > >>>
> > >>> Martin,
> > >>>
> > >>> I like your definition.
> > >>>
> > >>> While there is a case for renaming the standard name, it's long-time 
> > >>> use, validity, and the fact only sophisticated data managers use 
> > >>> standard names (and most data users just look primarily at variable 
> > >>> names) says to me we should keep the existing standard names with 
> > >>> fraction.
> > >>>
> > >>> John
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 08:07, Jim Biard 
> > >>> <jbi...@cicsnc.org<mailto:jbi...@cicsnc.org>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi.
> > >>>
> > >>> I understand that concern, but it has always been true that the units 
> > >>> for a quantity identified by a standard name only has to be convertible 
> > >>> using UDUNITS from the canonical units specified in the definition for 
> > >>> that standard name. So percent is, by definition, valid for a quantity 
> > >>> with units of '1'. As you can see below:
> > >>>
> > >>>> udunits2
> > >>> You have: 1
> > >>> You want: percent
> > >>>       1  = 100 percent
> > >>>       x/percent = 100*(x/)
> > >>>
> > >>> I guess I don't see the need for guidance here.
> > >>>
> > >>> Grace and peace,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim
> > >>>
> > >>> On 1/31/19 10:51 AM, Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear Jonathan,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> we could certainly take that approach, though the definitions are not 
> > >>> always accessible to people looking at the standard name, so they do 
> > >>> not compensate for ambiguity in the name itself.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The current text '"Area fraction" means the fraction of horizontal
> > >>> area.' could be replaced with
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Area Fraction" is a dimensionless number representing a relative or 
> > >>> proportional area. It may be expressed as a fraction, percentage or any 
> > >>> other unit that conforms to "1".  It is evaluated as the area of 
> > >>> interest divided by the grid cell area, scaled for the units chosen.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I still feel that there is a case for changing the name to, for
> > >>> example, "relative_area" in order to reduce confusion caused by
> > >>> people who assume that a fraction is a quantity that does not have
> > >>> units,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Martin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: CF-metadata
> > >>> <cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu><mailto:cf-metadata-bounces@cgd.
> > >>> uc a r.edu> on behalf of Jonathan Gregory
> > >>> <j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk><mailto:j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk>
> > >>> Sent: 31 January 2019 13:20:24
> > >>> To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>
> > >>> Subject: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > >>> area_fraction
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear Martin
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd rather we retained "fraction" in the standard name, because
> > >>> it's always been there, it's used in other contexts in a
> > >>> consistent way, and there isn't anything actually incorrect with it, as 
> > >>> you say.
> > >>> Could we instead add a note to the definitions pointing out that 
> > >>> percent is acceptable as a unit for them?
> > >>>
> > >>> Best wishes
> > >>>
> > >>> Jonathan
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Forwarded message from Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
> > >>> <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk><mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk> -----
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 22:40:12 +0000
> > >>> From: Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC
> > >>> <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk><mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk>
> > >>> To: Steven Emmerson <emmer...@ucar.edu><mailto:emmer...@ucar.edu>
> > >>> Cc: "CF-metadata
> > >>> (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>)"
> > >>> <cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu><mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > >>>          area_fraction
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Steve,
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> The issue is more that CF allows more freedom in the choice of units 
> > >>> than many people expect from a "fraction".
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> A second problem, I think the problem is that I didn't explain the 
> > >>> issue clearly. In the CMIP data request we are specifying that 
> > >>> variables with standard name "area_fraction" should be given as 
> > >>> percentages. This is allowed by the CF convention: an "area_fraction" 
> > >>> can be 0.5 or 50%. The reason that percentages are being used is 
> > >>> because "area_fraction" is being used like the proportion of land 
> > >>> covered in grass, and people are used to having these as percentages 
> > >>> rather than fractions. It is all perfectly correct as far as the 
> > >>> convention goes, but people often interpret the use of "area_fraction" 
> > >>> for a percentage as an error.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Given that we have the framework of allowing flexibility in the choice 
> > >>> of units, I feel it would be better to avoid having the term "fraction" 
> > >>> in the standard name, given that it is often interpreted as implying a 
> > >>> specific choice for the units.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Martin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Steven Emmerson
> > >>> <emmer...@ucar.edu><mailto:emmer...@ucar.edu>
> > >>> Sent: 30 January 2019 21:37
> > >>> To: Juckes, Martin (STFC,RAL,RALSP)
> > >>> Cc: CF-metadata
> > >>> (cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu<mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>)
> > >>> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Putting the units in a CF standard name:
> > >>> area_fraction
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 12:54 PM Martin Juckes - UKRI STFC 
> > >>> <martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk><mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk><mailto:martin.juc...@stfc.ac.uk>>
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm afraid I don't understand your comment. When I search for 
> > >>> "fraction" in the NIST document I find it defined as being a ratio, 
> > >>> which is inconsistent with the current CF usage. The CF standard name 
> > >>> concept "area_fraction" is not what NIST or others understand as a 
> > >>> "fraction". I'm suggesting a change to remove this inconsistency.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unless we're talking past one another, I'll have to disagree.  The NIST 
> > >>> unit for "mass fraction" is "1" -- even though it's a ratio. A fraction 
> > >>> can be represented many ways. "1:2", "1/2", and "0.5" all represent the 
> > >>> same fraction, for example.
> > >>>
> > >>> Does the CF convention require a particular representation for a 
> > >>> fraction?
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Steve Emmerson
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