Hi Cathy,

The “P” of PSU is “Practical” so it's almost certain to be PSS-78, it sounds 
like we should get “sea_water_practical_salinity_at_sea_floor” on the list. Let 
me know what the oceanographer says and we can get a name proposed.

-Barna


> On 2019-09-10, at 07:32, Cathy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I didn't think to look. It's a reanalysis dataset so not measured 
> directly. The units are PSU. I'm not sure either "methods" below apply. The 
> observed data for ORAS5 reanalysis is from here
> 
> https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/2013JC009067
> 
> I'll ask an oceanographer here if he has any idea about this.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> On 9/10/19 11:23 AM, Andrew Barna wrote:
>> Hi Cathy,
>> 
>> There is already the name `sea_water_salinity_at_sea_floor` in the CF 
>> standard name list. However, if you know the scale you are calculating, a 
>> new name should be added to indicate this:
>> sea_water_practical_salinity_at_sea_floor if using PSS-78
>> or
>> sea_water_absolute_salinity_at_sea_floor if using TEOS-10
>> 
>> I can come up with some definitions if you would like to have either of 
>> these proposed to the list.
>> -Barna
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2019-09-10, at 07:04, Cathy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I will use that variable.
>>> 
>>> I also calculated salinity of the ocean floor. Same question.
>>> 
>>> Cathy
>>> 
>>> On 9/9/19 3:44 PM, Andrew Barna wrote:
>>>> Hi Cathy,
>>>> 
>>>> There is the name `sea_water_potential_temperature_at_sea_floor` with the 
>>>> following definition:
>>>> Potential temperature is the temperature a parcel of air or sea water 
>>>> would have if moved adiabatically to sea level pressure. The potential 
>>>> temperature at the sea floor is that adjacent to the ocean bottom, which 
>>>> would be the deepest grid cell in an ocean model.
>>>> 
>>>> From what I can tell, there is no “in situ” sea water temperature name at 
>>>> the sea floor. I’d suggest the following name for this parameter with 
>>>> canonical units K:
>>>> `sea_water_temperature_at_sea_floor`
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a possible definition basically modifying the above to remove the 
>>>> “potential” parts:
>>>> 
>>>> Sea water temperature is the in situ temperature of the sea water. The 
>>>> temperature at the sea floor is that adjacent to the ocean bottom, which 
>>>> would be the deepest grid cell in an ocean model.
>>>> 
>>>> There should probably also be a modification of the existing 
>>>> sea_water_temperature definition to include this new name if it is 
>>>> accepted:
>>>> 
>>>> The sentence:
>>>> "There are standard names for sea_surface_temperature, 
>>>> sea_surface_skin_temperature, sea_surface_subskin_temperature and 
>>>> sea_surface_foundation_temperature which can be used to describe data 
>>>> located at the specified surfaces.”
>>>> 
>>>> Should be changed to:
>>>> 
>>>> "There are standard names for sea_surface_temperature, 
>>>> sea_surface_skin_temperature, sea_surface_subskin_temperature,  
>>>> sea_surface_foundation_temperature, and sea_water_temperature_at_sea_floor 
>>>> which can be used to describe data located at the specified surfaces.”
>>>> 
>>>> -Barna
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2019-09-09, at 11:23, Cathy Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> All
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a new variable request; bottom temperature. It is the temperature 
>>>>> of the ocean floor (or the last level of a multi level ocean dataset). I 
>>>>> searched and was unable to find it or a variable with "bottom" or synomyn 
>>>>> as a level. I welcome being pointed out where I missed it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is an important variable for fish and aquatic populations near coasts 
>>>>> (or very shallow oceans).
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://glossary.ametsoc.org/wiki/Bottom_temperature
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmars.2019.00030/full
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me know if this request should go elsewhere.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cathy Smith
>>>>> 
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