Dear Francesca and Marcelo

I think that "velocity" ought to appear in this one:
> sea_water_to_direction_at_sea_floor
It's the velocity which has a direction.

Best wishes

Jonathan

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> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:29:31 +0000
> From: Francesca Eggleton - UKRI STFC <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: [CF-metadata] Suggestion for standard names for bottom current and
>       due to tides and Stokes drift
> 
> Dear Marcelo,
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you for your proposals and apologies for the delay in responding. As 
> you may have seen in Alison's last email, I will be helping out with the 
> maintenance of the standard names.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you to Jonathan for comments on these proposals. They all look good and 
> seem to match what already exists. The two phrases which were suggested as 
> aliases, I believe to be new terms and have suggested a reason why so please 
> comment if you agree/disagree. The following text will list each of the 
> proposals, their units and descriptions (constructed from similar terms to be 
> in line with standard name descriptions). Please let me know if there are any 
> comments or further changes to be made. If no comments are made in the next 7 
> days, these are likely to be accepted in the next update.
> 
> eastward_sea_water_velocity_at_sea_floor
> ms-1
> A velocity is a vector quantity. "Eastward" indicates a vector component 
> which is positive when directed eastward (negative westward). The velocity at 
> the sea floor is that adjacent to the ocean bottom, which would be the 
> deepest grid cell in an ocean model.
> 
> northward_sea_water_velocity_at_sea_floor
> ms-1
> A velocity is a vector quantity. "Northward" indicates a vector component 
> which is positive when directed northward (negative southward). The velocity 
> at the sea floor is that adjacent to the ocean bottom, which would be the 
> deepest grid cell in an ocean model.
> 
> sea_water_to_direction_at_sea_floor
> degree
> The phrase "to_direction" is used in the construction X_to_direction and 
> indicates the direction towards which the velocity vector of X is headed. The 
> direction is a bearing in the usual geographical sense, measured positive 
> clockwise from due north. The direction at the sea floor is that adjacent to 
> the ocean bottom, which would be the deepest grid cell in an ocean model.
> 
> sea_water_speed_at_sea_floor
> ms-1
> Speed is the magnitude of velocity. The speed at the sea floor is that 
> adjacent to the ocean bottom, which would be the deepest grid cell in an 
> ocean model.
> 
> eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_tides
> ms-1
> A velocity is a vector quantity. "Eastward" indicates a vector component 
> which is positive when directed eastward (negative westward). The 
> specification of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means 
> that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together 
> compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. "Due to tides" 
> means due to all astronomical gravity changes which manifest as tides. No 
> distinction is made between different tidal components.
> northward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_tides
> ms-1
> A velocity is a vector quantity. "Northward" indicates a vector component 
> which is positive when directed northward (negative southward). The 
> specification of a physical process by the phrase "due_to_" process means 
> that the quantity named is a single term in a sum of terms which together 
> compose the general quantity named by omitting the phrase. "Due to tides" 
> means due to all astronomical gravity changes which manifest as tides. No 
> distinction is made between different tidal components.
> 
> sea_water_to_direction_due_to_tides
> degree
> The phrase "to_direction" is used in the construction X_to_direction and 
> indicates the direction towards which the velocity vector of X is headed. The 
> direction is a bearing in the usual geographical sense, measured positive 
> clockwise from due north. The specification of a physical process by the 
> phrase "due_to_" process means that the quantity named is a single term in a 
> sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by omitting 
> the phrase. "Due to tides" means due to all astronomical gravity changes 
> which manifest as tides. No distinction is made between different tidal 
> components.
> 
> sea_water_speed_due_to_tides
> ms-1
> Speed is the magnitude of velocity. The specification of a physical process 
> by the phrase "due_to_" process means that the quantity named is a single 
> term in a sum of terms which together compose the general quantity named by 
> omitting the phrase. "Due to tides" means due to all astronomical gravity 
> changes which manifest as tides. No distinction is made between different 
> tidal components.
> 
> The following should not be aliases of 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_x_velocity and 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_y_velocity, they should be proposed as new 
> terms. The definition states '"x" indicates a vector component along the grid 
> x-axis, positive with increasing x.', this has been done on purpose to allow 
> this term to be used with any type of grid and not limiting it to a lat-lon 
> grid. The term eastward is defined as '"Eastward" indicates a vector 
> component which is positive when directed eastward (negative westward)' which 
> limits this term to being 'zonal' (along a latitudinal circle).
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_eastward_velocity
> ms-1
> A velocity is a vector quantity. "Eastward" indicates a vector component 
> which is positive when directed eastward (negative westward). The Stokes 
> drift velocity is the average velocity when following a specific fluid parcel 
> as it travels with the fluid flow. For instance, a particle floating at the 
> free surface of water waves, experiences a net Stokes drift velocity in the 
> direction of wave propagation.
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_northward_velocity
> ms-1
> A velocity is a vector quantity. "Northward" indicates a vector component 
> which is positive when directed northward (negative southward). The Stokes 
> drift velocity is the average velocity when following a specific fluid parcel 
> as it travels with the fluid flow. For instance, a particle floating at the 
> free surface of water waves, experiences a net Stokes drift velocity in the 
> direction of wave propagation.
> 
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_to_direction
> degrees
> The Stokes drift velocity is the average velocity when following a specific 
> fluid parcel as it travels with the fluid flow. For instance, a particle 
> floating at the free surface of water waves, experiences a net Stokes drift 
> velocity in the direction of wave propagation. The phrase "to_direction" is 
> used in the construction X_to_direction and indicates the direction towards 
> which the velocity vector of X is headed. The direction is a bearing in the 
> usual geographical sense, measured positive clockwise from due north.
> 
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_speed
> 
> ms-1
> 
> The Stokes drift velocity is the average velocity when following a specific 
> fluid parcel as it travels with the fluid flow. For instance, a particle 
> floating at the free surface of water waves, experiences a net Stokes drift 
> velocity in the direction of wave propagation. Speed is the magnitude of 
> velocity.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
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> 
> Dear Marcelo
> 
> 
> 
> These look fine to me, thanks. Just to be clear - you're *not* proposing
> 
> at_bottom, are you? I agree with you that at_sea_floor would be the right
> 
> phrase to use.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I would like to suggest the inclusion of standard names for u, v,
> 
> speed and direction for bottom current and due to tides and Stokes
> 
> drift:
> 
> 
> 
> An example of model output with bottom velocity is the HYCOM NCODA forecast:
> 
> https://tds.hycom.org/thredds/catalog/GLBv0.08/expt_93.0/data/forecasts/runs/catalog.html?dataset=GLBv0.08/expt_93.0/data/forecasts/runs/FMRC_RUN_2019-10-13T12:00:00Z
> 
> water_u_bottom (m/s) = Eastward Water Velocity =
> 
> eastward_sea_water_velocity_at_bottom
> 
> water_v_bottom (m/s) = Northward Water Velocity =
> 
> northward_sea_water_velocity_at_bottom
> 
> 
> 
> based on existing variables:
> 
> sea_water_potential_temperature_at_sea_floor
> 
> sea_water_temperature_at_sea_floor
> 
> sea_water_salinity_at_sea_floor
> 
> sea_water_pressure_at_sea_floor
> 
> 
> 
> my suggestion would be:
> 
> eastward_sea_water_velocity_at_sea_floor
> 
> northward_sea_water_velocity_at_sea_floor
> 
> sea_water_to_direction_at_sea_floor
> 
> sea_water_speed_at_sea_floor
> 
> 
> 
> An example of model output with currents due to tides and Stokes drift
> 
> is the Mercator Forecast:
> 
> http://marine.copernicus.eu/services-portfolio/access-to-products/?option=com_csw&view=details&product_id=GLOBAL_ANALYSIS_FORECAST_PHY_001_024
> 
> 
> 
> based on existing variables:
> 
> eastward_sea_water_velocity_assuming_no_tide
> 
> northward_sea_water_velocity_assuming_no_tide
> 
> ocean_vertical_momentum_diffusivity_due_to_tides
> 
> ocean_vertical_tracer_diffusivity_due_to_tides
> 
> 
> 
> my suggestion would be:
> 
> eastward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_tides
> 
> northward_sea_water_velocity_due_to_tides
> 
> sea_water_to_direction_due_to_tides
> 
> sea_water_speed_due_to_tides
> 
> 
> 
> Stokes drift is present in the current CF table with:
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_x_velocity
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_y_velocity
> 
> I think it could help to add
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_eastward_velocity
> 
> sea_surface_wave_stokes_drift_northward_velocity
> 
> as aliases to make it clear it is zonal and meridional currents, and
> 
> not just along the grid X and Y dimensions.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> --
> 
> Marcelo Andrioni
> 
> marceloandrioni at 
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