basically I need a row for the payment id and then a row under that row for 
each record

>Ah you are using it wrong. When doing grouping you have 2 sets of cfoutput:
>
><cfoutput query="foo" group="payment_id">
>   this shows up once per payment id<br>
>  <cfoutput>
>  this shows up once per row
>  </cfoutput>
>
></cfoutput>
>
>On 11/27/06, Torrent Girl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>

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