Hi Paul,
Thanks so much
I added the code to  new page.
  <cfquery name="q" datasource="#REQUEST.dataSource#">
        Select *
        From   tutorials
  </cfquery>
  <cfdump var="#q#" />

Thanks for this, as this is a good test,t hat I wish I thought of!

I made a page which displays it so you can see:
http://cfhawaii.com/db_test.cfm

I still can't get the other app to work. I am going to go home and  
eat, hopefully then I can get it working.
Thanks so much for all your help:)
John


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